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PAWS - FLATLINE RETURNING AFTER 6 MONTHS OF NOFAP? IS IT POSSIBLE ?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by topilabv, Nov 9, 2018.

  1. topilabv

    topilabv Fapstronaut

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    Hello people,
    I had a strong addiction, started fapping around 8 and started with porn at 10, currently I am 24. The last 5 year I fapped multiple times a day with tons of tabs of porn opened in my. I had a strong addiction and almost never had good sex with a girl, because of my ED.
    Currently I am on my 183th day of nofap ( soft mode, I have a girlfriend) Becayse of my girl I barely had the desire to open porn anymore or to start again with it.. After realizing all the troubles it caused me i simply started hating it... When I realized about the problem that I have I was suffering from ED, not getting easily aroused by real women, struggling with fetishes (mostly transwoman), depression and ocd thoughts.

    After the first couple of weeks or I would say month, the ED almost faded away. I would say I never really experienced a flatline related to libido..I was feeling really aroused by real women and most of all, by my girl.I had the feeling that I could bang every girl on the planet. Morning woods started to return and sometimes i would even get a random boner (before that, i would almost never get a morning wood). I thought that all the issues related to my libido are gone.
    Now I am on month 6, and for the last 5 months I barely experienced ED - I had sex with my girl almost every 4-5 days and I was rock hard everytime we tried to have sex. Of course, I had some ED cases,but let's say it happened around 10 times for 5 months, which is not that bad.
    Besides ED, the other symptoms were still there. I had mood swings, anger issues, ocd and hocd thoughts, depression, lazyness, braing fog.. All these symptoms would come last 3-4 days then fade away, then return again in a week and so on .... It is really hard as shit to deal with all these things..
    However, I thought that the issues related to my libido are back in the history and I was confident enough to say that I am totally healed from this problem.
    However, the lat 3-4 weeks my libido just faded away. My girl walks around naked, and it's like my penis is dead. I see all these pretty and hot girls in my gym, but I don't feel anything down there. Morning woods disappeared, random boners too. The feeling really drives me crazy and I don't know what's going on... ?
    Is there anyone, who can relate? Is this to be part of the PAWS, or some other kind ot issues....
     
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  2. Mattew

    Mattew Fapstronaut

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    Happens to many, withdrawals can last up to 2 years, bu there is no scientific research or something like that, so we have to make it up reading other people experience in this and other forums.

    About me, i think my 170 have been almost all a total long flatline. Actually i don't gwt hard by seeing a naked girl, i get hard only with her touching or blowing.
     
  3. Bro I'll tell you one thing cherish your gf and never take her or your health for granted.

    Porn completely rewires the brain in ways that are beyond logical explanation. Withdrawal from this affects people in many different ways.

    PAWS for me has been so intense that I no longer even have a gf. Consider real PAWS to be the cause of your symptoms if you have either severe anxiety or another type of intense clinical depression. I mean you won't have to wonder whether you have PAWS or not.
     
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  4. topilabv

    topilabv Fapstronaut

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    Yes you may be right... in the whole 5 month journey I was experiencing tons of anxiety, ocd thoughts, depression, mood swings and anger issues... They would come, stay for a week and bother me and then fade away for lets say a week or two... when I start to think that it's over they come again... However with the libido things weren't so bad cause after the first couple of weeks I almost had no issues... But this thing now looks terrible.. I always thought that after 6 months of nofap i would be healed, and suddenly i lost all my libido and my penis feels completely dead....
    This thing is fucked up guys, we need to stay strong..
     
  5. topilabv

    topilabv Fapstronaut

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    Thanks for the reply.
    When I was reading in the forums, it always says that after 90 days you should be healed, that it takes 90 days for the brain to rewire and you are a "brand new" person. When I started the journey, i told to myself - "hey 90 days ain't even that much, Imagine how you would feel after 150 days ? you will be like a fuckin' superman, bro!"..
    However looks like what we think and what is reality are two separate things....
     
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  6. Mattew

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    It is like that.
    During the first 90 days you can have many up and downs, and at times you feel so high that you think nofap gives you superpowers or things like that.
    I think a lot of success stories are very real, but eventually result of a placebo (today i look only at stories of people with a year or so in nofap, i consider them to be more reliable). I still think nofap is useful and can heal you, but for people who started early with internet porn, and did that for 15+ years, 90 days is just a start, there are many reports on this site of people with heavy withdrawals after a year, actually if you look only at people into nofap for long periods (6+months) you see less and less incredible success stories, and i think those are the real stories we have to look into.

    The thing here is, there is no big scientifical study, so i can only stick with nofap and see what happens. I can tell for sure that withdrawals are very real, so, at least, i know something has happened (and is still happening) in my body and maybe my brain. Still, after 170 days i'm in a bad place, i can just keep going in the name of "science" and see what happens next...
     
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  7. topilabv

    topilabv Fapstronaut

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    You're right. You can't expect to do sth bad for 15 years multiple times a day and then stop for 90 days and expect to be healed.. It's like when you've been smoking tobacco for 15 years and then stop for 3 months and hope that your lungs are back to normal...
     
  8. Hey brother!
    Calm down and read my words. U r doing it from the age of 8 and now u r 24. Almost 14 to16 years of addiction can't be healed in 6 months completely. It will take more time up to 2 years to cure completely. And even after 2 years some withdrawals can occur again but for a very short span of time as i have read some posts here who mention that even after 1 year the flatline can occur but it will be for a very short time and it will go away in soem days . Anyways, u have come so far.
    6 months streak is a great achievement. Make it continue, Ur current flatline will be for a short period. Everything will be alright. My case is almost same as urs. I started masturbating at 8 and porn at 15 and now, i am 23 and abstaining from porn is at day 190 and nofap at day 70. But i am still virgin. I am not having good morning wood till yet. And over all health is not better as it should be after 70 of nofap and 190 of no porn. But i am determined to do no PMO till marriage whatever the conditions become. And i will lose my virginity with my wife only. Stay strong all brothers on this journey.
     
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  9. topilabv

    topilabv Fapstronaut

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    Yep! Thank you for the inspirational words, brother!
    Yep it's a tough journey and the moment you think everything is allright, the devil still comes and reminds you what hell looks like... We need to stay strong, patient, pray to the Lord and hope.. Porn is a huge trap and can damage you in many ways, it's bad that many people don't know it yet... Sometimes when it's hard I ask myself is it really porn that causes all that shit in my head or it's just that my mind is fucked up... i guess there's others who can relate..
    Stay strong brothers!!
     
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  10. Try not to O with your girlfriend. Try karezza.
     
  11. topilabv

    topilabv Fapstronaut

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    Yeah but it’s hard to tell your girl, oh babe i’m Sorry let’s not have sex for a while...
     
  12. Karezza is a form of sex, just without the O. Maybe she's open to it.
     

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