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The Rock Bottom I Wanted

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by eash860531, Oct 10, 2018.

  1. eash860531

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    Day 17

    I'm very excited for our second full weekend together. We have a lot of stuff planned tomorrow including seeing the new Halloween. My first meeting is tomorrow as well.

    I ordered the book "Facing the Shadow" by Patrick Carnes and am looking forward to diving into it. My therapist keeps telling me that I need to not feel shame - but that's definitely easier said than done.

    I'm feeling real good so far and can't wait for that 30-day milestone.
     
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  2. eash860531

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    Day 30

    I have been looking forward to this day for a long time. Thirty days since d-day and I haven’t had any serious issues. The problem is my wife has. She’s trying so hard to put on a brave face, but broke down last weekend when we were out of town with good friends.

    It was a previously scheduled trip before all this happened and I think she really wanted to make it through, but at dinner Saturday she couldn’t handle it. She gets anxiety as well, and has gotten it every single night for the past month, and she couldn’t even sit at the table.

    I couldn’t see her struggle anymore and we had nowhere to go so I came somewhat clean to my friends. I didn’t dive into SA but told them I had been unfaithful and we are working through it. They were incredibly supportive. That being said, she has been very depressed since then.

    She saw the other two couples as “normal” and realized she is stuck with me and the horrible thing I’ve done to her.

    She told me today I had been an incredible husband this past month and she will try to not be sad or mad anymore. Easier said then done.

    Does any SO have any tips now that we are 30 days in?

    As for me, I’m still seeing a therapist and I’ve kept busy but haven’t been on here much. I need to make it a point to keep this as a resource.

    I am really starting to see the ripple effect of all this as we are also looking ahead to Thanksgiving with our families.

    I’m more concerned with her at this point as she feels like no one is on her side. She is meeting with other SA SOs soon. I hope it helps.

    I’ve wanted to see this day for so long, but for some reason I am very sad today.

    But it’s time to focus on my next goal.
     
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  3. TryingToHeal

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    It is really tough. I actually found out about my husband's P use on Thanksgiving day of 2016 and I could not talk to him about it because we were with family. It was such a hard day. And the day, my previous favorite holiday, itself is now a big trigger for me.

    I can totally get how your wife is feeling. We haven't confessed to any friends yet but I worry about that a lot. In a way, I feel like it would be good if some knew, to possibly have some support, but in another way I feel like I don't want anyone knowing at all.

    Your wife might find support here or the private SO section.

    I don't really have any tips that I think actually have helped me. I know that sucks to hear, but I don't feel much better now than I did then. There have been time periods that I have felt better, but it seems to go in waves. I think a lot of SOs say self-care helps them. I haven't really found that to be true for me so far, but it may help your wife.

    Just keep doing what you are doing, be understanding, be honest, have integrity, take responsibility, don't be self-loathing, stay focused in recovery, try to build trust, and be someone safe for her. I think that's the best thing you can do. There is no easy, quick fix, though I desperately wish there was!
     
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  4. Jennica

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    If I may add to this and to put it in the simplest of terms is it’s going to take time! @TryingToHeal stated along with the time it takes, is entirely up to her and where she is at in the cycle. The different stages are different for everyone hence the 2-5 years time frame.
     
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  5. eash860531

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    Thank you for the responses.

    Day 31

    We are excited for the weekend. We have a lot going on so it should be fun. She told me she had the worst anxiety she’s had last night. I know she wants to and is trying so hard, I just feel terrible still.

    I know I also need to stay vigilant in my process and my recovery but I can’t help thinking of her and hoping she heals. It is disheartening to hear some SOs aren’t able to ever fully heal. But I know I will try my hardest.
     
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  6. eash860531

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    Day 35

    I’m about to reach five weeks since “d-day”. Boy has it been a long 35 days. I don’t mean that in that I’ve struggled to not relapse, actually the opposite. But to see what my wife has gone through has been incredibly tough.

    I was so lost, I had come to terms that I’m a pathetic terrible human being. I am slowly turning that mindset around, but this obviously caught my wife by complete surprise.

    I was the invincible normal husband she always dreamed of... Not the addict she used to be engaged to. Hell, even I convinced myself of my spotless record despite hiding this horrific secret.

    I have shattered her image of me into so many pieces. Day by day I am proving I can pick them back up.

    We had our best weekend yet, although I had trouble answering her questions Friday night. I had normalized everything so much I couldn’t understand why she didn’t understand.

    I’m still learning. And I know we will continue to grow.
     
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  7. Katrina Rose

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    I hope you are both doing well. I've been on this journey with my PA partner since May. It does come in waves, our recovery from the trauma. It's been a really good few weeks for me, yet today I'm crying and just want to be far away from him. It's nothing he's done. Just muscle memory in the brain I suppose.
    Stay as open as you are, always.
    No one in any of our positions is lucky, but she is lucky you are so open and willing and acknowledge her pain. Some of us don't get that from the PA.
    Sometimes I read posts on here and know that person is going to struggle, a lot, or that they aren't ready to heal. You on the other hand, you've got this. It's not about perfection, it's about the effort and the journey.
     
  8. eash860531

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    Thank you so much. I know she wants to be over this and be “fine” from here on out. I also know that’s impossible. She was being very snippy and kinda mean Friday and on our way home from an event she said she’s sorry she’s not sure why she was like that.

    I told her she doesn’t need to apologize. These are the effects of trauma and it is 100% because of my actions. We both know the road we have ahead, but the support and advice on here is crucial to my recovery and her emotional healing.

    My best wishes for your SO and more importantly- you.
     
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  9. eash860531

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    Hello, Day 40.

    When I was the “middle” of my addiction it was a struggle to reach four days sober let alone 40. I am so happy to be posting this morning, I will talk more about our weekend tomorrow... but I just wanted to toot my own horn today. The celebration is short lived, I know, because I can never get ahead of myself or too confident. Ever. But we have had a great weekend and I wanted to just reiterate again how much better life can be in recovery.
     
  10. eash860531

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    Day 41

    We are heading home to see our families this week for thanksgiving. It’s the first time we’ll be with them since all this happened. We are both a little nervous, obviously, especially after what happened on our first trip out of town with friends.

    That being said, her mother knows and we are having Thanksgiving with her first. Does anyone have any advice, tips for a situation like this?

    As for last weekend, we had a great one. We got some errands done, watched some tv and talked a little about SA.

    I really appreciate how kind she has been and how hard she has been trying. I fear if she doesn’t talk to others soon, her emotions may come out all at once.

    She was already on here, but I think she needs someone in person. She feels no one she has told can understand what she has been going through.

    Im hoping all goes well.
     
  11. Queenie%Bee

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    Is she in therapy ?
     
  12. eash860531

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    not yet. I have urged her several times.
     
  13. eash860531

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    Day 48

    I haven’t posted recently because we went out of town to visit our families and I wanted to focus on that and not being on my iPad.

    My laptop is still locked away since that was my main accomplice in all this.

    I felt great. I never had any urges despite me sleeping alone with my wife at her family’s home in the evenings.

    She kept mentioning to me how sad she was. I have urged her again to talk to a professional. She wants to but hasn’t taken that step. My therapist wants to sit down with her and other SO of SA. But she is a little uneasy as it is MY therapist and she says that he shouldn’t be involved. She would rather meet with them privately. Has anyone had experience with this?

    Safe to say this is the longest I have gone without P .... probably since I was 15. I don’t know for sure but I can’t imagine I ever lasted this long. Of course, my final downfall was escalating to cam chat roulette sites where I would interact with others - occasionally I’ll think about those but then I’ll reflect on the pain they have caused and I’ll immediately realize how sad it all is.

    I don’t think about it in a sense that I want to go on them, just that they come into my head for one reason or another or no reason at all.

    48 days is an amazing accomplishment for me which in and of itself is sad. But I am working every day on myself and my relationship. Our road remains long. But my determination hasn’t faded.
     
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  14. Well, I'm so glad you're keeping it going! Get to 90, and the habit is broken. But that's only the start - the real key is working on changing your life, so that it makes sense without the support of porn escapes.

    I think your wife will come around. I'm deep into working on setting new habits and patterns for our marriage. For that, Athol Kay's video series here has been huge. You can watch the first two videos for free, and see if they help. Regardless, I really do think that a sustained new reality that is so much better than before will win her over, even if she is shocked by where things went. But it takes time.

    One thing that Mark said to me, that bears keeping in mind: the best way you can help your wife is to help yourself. Make sure you have what you need to stay healthy. That is priority number one. Relapsing is the biggest way you can harm her right now, so do whatever is necessary to keep yourself moving to the next level.

    Finally, don't be sad that 48 is an amazing accomplishment. Encourage yourself - you need it!
     
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  15. Queenie%Bee

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    Just be careful how you bring it up . I was SOOOO offended and pissed and defensive that my husband thought that I , the innocent person in this needed therapy .
     
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  16. eash860531

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    Yes, definitely. she was the first to bring it up. I have been careful when I have to not offend her. I think she knows it’s for the best but I will stress that it is not her fault.

    Thank you. I will check them out.
     
  17. 0111zerozero11

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    I agree with @Qnb42078 ; suggesting to a betrayed spouse (especially one that isn't codependent) that they should seek therapy is a tiiiiiiiiiiiiiight rope. I too, was "urged" to "get help" & that is when the anger started; the resentment. My husband's therapist kept pushing for me to join other SOs in her little weekly group therapy. She would request I be present at some of my husband's sessions & when I went, it was nothing but having to hear excuses for my husband's behavior. It was isolating, demeaning & humiliating. I kept telling my husband I was not OK with how him & his therapist kept trying to tell me what I needed, when neither one of them wanted to ask me my actual thoughts on the situation.
    Advice: I would let your wife decide what she needs while gently encouraging her to seek her own therapist, or a couples therapist for the two of you.

    Remember, everyone reacts differently. You know your wife best....I would listen to her.
     
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  18. eash860531

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    Yeah she’s the one that has been initiating the convo. Ironically she has been a big therapist advocate her whole life, and I was the one that thought marriage counseling is dumb (before d-day). I think part of me was afraid because of my addiction.

    But I have never been forceful and definitely gently encouraging and listening.

    I just don’t know how to help her depression. Our relationship has done a 180 and I haven’t had any issues with relapses, I think she knows how long the road is. She desperately wants to stop feeling sad.
     
  19. Katrina Rose

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    She's counting on that other shoe to drop. Waiting for the next jab. It doesn't matter to her how well you're doing in the beginning, because you're still earning trust and faith back. Give it time. When she starts to feel safe she will show enthusiasm.
     
  20. 0111zerozero11

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    @eash860531 What Katrina wrote is so true. You have to be patient. It took me a good 2/3 months before I stopped the depersonalization from the traumatic event. What you can do now, is prepare yourself for when she comes out of this fog; her sadness will turn into something else. Part of your recovery should be not letting others emotions influence your rational thoughts. You know why your wife is sad & you're doing the best you can to help her....just have to ride it out, my friend.
     

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