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"It is funny that you think this 'nofap' thing would work."

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Phantompoint, Dec 6, 2018.

  1. Phantompoint

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    This is what people usually reply when you try to convey the message of nofap outside the internet, except to a monk or a fellow nofap brother maybe. A female friend of mine even describes this nofap community as a "cult for those who don't want to admit their sexual desires".

    They simply don't understand the struggle and why are we doing this. Yes, of course it is completely fine to fap all day long three to five times a day, 7 days per week. But the cost outweighs the glims of pleasure from fapping. Brain fog, lack of willpower, no motivation, social anxiety, weak muscles, unable to focus, bad temper, very weak memory, shallow breathing, delayed ejaculation, porn induced erectile dysfunction, heart problems. Not to mention the cost of porn is time, the most valuable thing you can find as a human being. Medical professions even argue there is no correlations between porn and health, but we have thousands to millions of testimonies proving them wrong. It doesn't matter if THEY don't understand. As long as YOU understand the cost of porn and the benefit of nofap.

    We must all have faith and commitment to stay strong. Train yourself to become better. Reach your goals. Prove them wrong.
     
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  2. THEBEATPOLICE

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  3. ras-tanura

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    I've seen the amount of ridicule something like No Nut November is getting. Girls don't seem to know what they're talking about and guys' brains are playing tricks on them just like mine is. Sadly we're living in the few years before people finally admit that this is a legit addiction.

    Did you know that cigarettes were a 'means for relaxing' for soldiers in World War 2? Only a decade after the war, when people starting dying of cancer, people started agreeing that cigarettes were harmful on the long run.

    Don't wait till Porn addiction becomes something harmful in common culture. People tend to repeat what others say... you make up your mind now and look at the benefits yourself first hand! I promise you, people will follow.
     
  4. sherif1987

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    The "science" that people use to oppose NoFap is really skepticism. No one has done experiments to see if this level of porn abuse will result in certain side effects: that's because we're the gunieu pigs. Just give it a few years...more and more ppl will have all of these side effects and some will realize that porn is a contributer while others will blame either "genes", or "metal illness", or "childhood experiences". Not that there aren't other reasons for the side effects described on here but obviously porn abuse is a big factor.
     
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  5. Hank Pym

    Hank Pym Fapstronaut

    That is true and very cool to know...because strong/powerful/hottest P just got started in this decade we are the first to understand and avoid the harmful effects!
    To my friends P is only thing they live for and never know life without it.
    For now this fake experts/doctors will keep saying its healthy. But I feel it in my veins that one day, may be after me and my friend be 30-50 year old, they will start having lots of health problems and I'll stay the as same as the young athlete as I am now. I'm not talking about the current 30-50 year old people, because P wasn't as powerful at that time.
    Cheers gys enjoy the life
     
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  6. GottaMakeIt

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    This is a thoughtful post. However, being in one year recovery with steady improvements I learned not to care about what other people think. Why would anyone want an opinion of the majority, when this culture is shaped to think a certain way instead of using own brain? I do not want to explain myself to anyone if they decide to ridicule me for abstaining even though they are the ones that fap and/or watch porn. It is socially acceptable to watch porn but as we all know it, watching porn is really bad for you. If they ridicule us, who cares? The only thing that matters is that we become healthier and reach our goals.
     
  7. md70

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    science my ass, the basic thing behind medicine is trial and error, everything is experimental and nothing is on the paper like mathematics or physics, so this forum and thousands of people complaining about years of PMO, tons of physical and psychological problems and also their successive stories is the prove and only thing that me and others trying to get our life back need.
     
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  8. Ra's Al Ghul

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    We are in the age where the denial of truth is everywhere. To have this line of thinking is dangerous because the most heinous acts will be possible with this thinking.
     
  9. Hank Moody 99

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    Well the problem is really porn I wouldn't say that mastrubating is bad I mean it really depends on you but its okay to mastrubate but porn is what is causing problems..
    As for me I am addicted to it I don't do this because I want some super powers or because I want to its because I must.It drained my life I don't have no other satisfaction then porn and there are no other things pleasure me as porn that's when you hit the rock bottom . As for this '"cult for those who don't want to admit their sexual instinct" its just purely ironic statement .Watching porn is destroying our sexual instincts .When you watch porn you'r pleasure for real relationship goes down and even for real sex or just pure attraction to human being.There are a lot of addicts who even prefer porn then real female which is very very bad.
     
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  10. Phantompoint

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    I would like to add a point on top of what you are trying to say. I think it depends on how hard core you are on your nofap journey. I know there is trial mode for people who only want to cut of porn but masturbate regularly, which is okay and that's your choice. But as a person who is practicing hard mode and semen retention, both porn and masturbation are BIG NONOs for me.
     
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  11. materiadeluz

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    I need stop masturbating, my Without Porn Masturbation begins today december 12, 2018

    No porn, no videos, no photos, i need stay out from that

    Wish me luck, sorry my bad english
     
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  12. When I read the articles that are pro-porn I often get the idea that they have simply not listened to the people who are addicted. The argumentation focuses on people who use porn but are not addicted, which is cheap.

    There is also serious science that challenges the idea that there is no problem with porn outside the nofap / Gary Wilson echo chamber.

    At the end of the day, you need to realise what is going on with you and whether you are happy with it. If not, then you should stop watching porn. That is essentially everything that Nofap suggests. It is as simple as that. I don't think anyone can have an objection to someone deciding not to watch porn anymore.

    So it does not really matter that much what science says in this case. You don't like it anymore, you stop.
     
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  13. Phantompoint

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    I think what is even worse is the fact that many people, including professionals, still think porn addition does not exist. People can be addicted to video games, gambling, smoking even sex, but for some reason scientists still cannot come to a consensus that human beings can be addicted to porn. Perhaps it's because watching porn is so common these days. It's easy to compare a gamer from a non gamer, but it is extremely hard to find someone who have never watched any porn at all. With no valid comparison, scientists and sex therapists refuse to coin the term 'porn addiction'.
     
  14. Explain to me why years of looking at porn caused a complete lack of dreaming at night in me, than explain why nofap cured it and I will agree with you that porn is fine. The bottom line is, porn isn't fine. It's one of the most potent drugs on this planet and people are ridiculing others because it would mean they'd have to give up pleasure. They have no idea of what porn is capable of. It is a weapon of mass destruction.
     
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  15. Hank Moody 99

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    Your journey is you'r journey you will chose how you are gonna go with it ... What is this hardmode BS ? There is no hardmode guys there is only freedom or not .Addicted or sober ..
     
  16. Hank Moody 99

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    Or you leave porn or not simple as that..
     
  17. Mattew

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    I'm 200 days in and i'm still not sure about the advantages.
     
  18. GottaMakeIt

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    That is perfectly normal. It is not supposed to be easy during the recovery. But you have many accounts here people confirming long term recovery benefits (including me). You gotta trust the process and do not expect results will be so pronounced right away. I am one year in recovery with occasional M relapse and now I slowly start to see benefits. I have not recovered but have more confidence in the process
     
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  19. Mattew

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    Have you noticed anything in the woman department in this time?
     
  20. Phantompoint

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    Perhaps you are one of the lucky ones who weren't addicted to porn after all?
     

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