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Have you ever thought about this?

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by FellowFlapper, Dec 13, 2018.

  1. FellowFlapper

    FellowFlapper New Fapstronaut

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    Hey

    I read an article about the rat park experiment, i don´t know if you guys have heard about it.. -Long story short: addiction is no longer needed as a coping strategy, if one is socially and existentially satisfied.
    Anyway, have you ever given any thoughts to if it might be the society´s fault that people like us are driven into addiction?
    Could it be that there´s something in modern society that causes an increase in porn addiction, or just addiction in general?
    Like, technology, individualism, disconnection from social networks (perhaps we´re less social than before), increased demands to individuals and so on.
    Is addiction a way of escaping from, and coping with this? Are we somehow some sort of psychosocial misfits?
     
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  2. EnterMarcus

    EnterMarcus Fapstronaut

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    You're referring to the Rat Utopia experiment by the behavioral scientist John B. Calhoun.

    In personal introspection society does make it easier for us to develop into these bizarre habits especially since we are exposed and have easy access to pornography. Porn is almost considered a completely normal thing now by standard. We live in an internet age as you've suggested and the convince of quick dopamine thrills are in abundance and easy to access. And of course, an abundance of something can be toxic to your mental health and personal development. Discipline is lost on a lot of people for this reason too, but in the end you are what you're willing to suffer for.

    That isn't to say that convenience is necessarily a bad thing, its how we decide to use it of course.

    There are also many social and communication problems associated. Hook up culture has resorted to flicking through several hundred applicants on apps like tinder basing nothing but a few photos and a small summary for sex applicants with sexual liberation(aka, the beautiful ones, like John has expressed in his experiment.) Young people are having sex a lot less these days(Same with the utopia over several generations.) Education systems also rely on specific models of teaching and we're taught to work in society and not for ourselves, and any reform just tends to eliminate activities most children would benefit from such as clubs and actual activities. Its not an easy subject to bring up but instead of teaching children communication and detecting early onsets of problems and even empathy we're instead worried about children shooting up schools and have to deal with those atrocities as they happen and that how most people treat it over issues of gun control just works against solving these deeper social problems.
     
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  3. It really hit me after thinking about this. At least in the USA and Western Europe, we are already living in Utopia. You can be whoever you want and do whatever you want here. If you apply yourself to a career, it is easy to earn a living. You can have a family if you apply yourself to that too. Our biggest problems are our own demons. We no longer have to struggle for survival, so we lose ourselves in hopeless searches for satisfaction. Porno, drugs, video games, guns, piercings, tattoos, political extremism. None of our problems have anything to do with necessity. We are spoiled.
     
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  4. FellowFlapper

    FellowFlapper New Fapstronaut

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    Doesnt that make you feel super anxious, as well?
    At least thats how i feel. And it really doesnt surprise me at all that there are so many addicts out there.
    I think watching porn, for me, has been a way of feeling in control. -Except that it has turned out to be quite the opposite.
    -Super good point about that we no longer need to struggle for survival.
     
  5. FellowFlapper

    FellowFlapper New Fapstronaut

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    Interesting thoughts! Have you ever given any thoughts to what societal changes can improve these issues? I cant really think of any, myself. Perhaps there´ll eventually be a new world order, which forces us to go back to basics.. I dont really believe that myself, but its very interesting to look upon societal trends, like going off grid, becoming self sufficient and so on.
     

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