masturbation without porn is normal if done in controlled environment

Unless you're practicing retention, there is nothing wrong with infrequent MO.

But, MO up until 20 years ago vs. MO now where almost every guy with an internet connection has strongly associated it with porn are two very different things. For many guys with porn addiction, they will simply not heal if they are Ming frequently. For most guys growing up, MO is synonyms with P and so MO will activate P pathways, preventing recovery.

 

If guys want to masturbate after they reboot, that is a matter for them. But masturbating during a reboot is fraught with problems. The addiction we are fighting has resulted in massive releases of dopamine to fake sex situations. Masturbation is fake sex. Nobody else is present and we simulate the vagina or anus with our hand. I continue to recommend that guys abstain from masturbation until the reboot is completed. Very seldom is this accomplished in 90 days btw.

 

I would not recommend masturbating ever again.

Main reason is it will make you weak and will possibly make you think your hand is enough.

Why not just get real women?

 

If you have PIED -porn induced erectile dysfunction then you need to stop mastrubating for a while.But a its up to you man if you can live you'r life with continuing mastrubating and not escalate to porn mastrubate then you are good to go .But is all up to you.

 

I agree with you.

 

I agree with you, I think masturbation is positive and healthy. But the trouble was that for me masturbation drew me back to porn. Masturbation without porn often left me feeling slightly frustrated and that feeling (alongside the hightened sexual proximity of just having masturbated) would make it much harder to resist having another go, but this time with porn. That's why I stopped masturbating, not because it is wrong or bad for me, but because it was interfering with my ability to resist porn. It might be fine now, but I've got use to not masturbating and I do not was to change something that's not broken.

 

That is purely nonsense. Masturbation itself alone is a wrong doing, let alone watching obscene porn. You got to steer clear any unhealthy habits if you want to get your life back to normal !

 

I don't buy it. There is no such thing as moderation. Just like a drug addict wants to have moderate doses, guess what it turns out to be a dismal consequence

 

i don't know how to reply to that. But that if you go without ejaculation either with or without a partner you seaman will either be absorbed back into the body as energy or out as a wet dream. If like to have some feed back about this. Thanks

 

good point!

 

I don't recommend masturbating without ejaculation. It can go on for hours and messes up the brain and penis!

 

What would be a “responsible” way to masturbate and that won’t relate to porn paths?
Like you think fantasizing about someone you know is bad?

 

Get a girl to do it for you

 

it is quite healthy to masturbate 1-3 times a week without using porn. The masturbation would then take less than 10 minutes each time. Nothing wrong with that, most people do that.

the problem is only if you masturbate every day, multiple times. Especially bad if you spend hours with this using porn. Waste of lifetime, drain of energy.

If you don't masturbate at all, chances are you get crazy with horniness. not everybody has a partner that wants to do it 3 times a week. If you do, thats great for you. You obviously don't need to masturbate then.

 

I just want to know...Is too much sex equivalent to too much masturbation? And can i get any strong advice on avoiding masturbation and especially porn.

 

Can too much sex be unhealthy for your penis is what im really trying to say if you lost me there.

 

Theme: Masturbation without porn is normal if done in controlled environment

What does that mean? Is masturbating under the duvet a controlled environment?