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Strip Clubs

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by RevFlav100, Dec 23, 2018.

  1. RevFlav100

    RevFlav100 Fapstronaut

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    So I have been porn free since April of this year and have seen some improvement with my ED. Also my mood is better and have more frequent random erections and morning wood (though still most mornings no wood). Still no success after three attempts at sex. I have been frequenting the strip club three times in the past week as I am on vacation. I am getting boners watching the women strip and when they grind on me in the VIP room I get even harder with precum. I wonder if at this point my problem is anxiety moreso than being hardwired to online porn. I feel more sexually healthy, but I wonder if since there is no pressure to have sex in the club that's the reason why I can get hard. Should I continue to reboot or attempt to have sex again?
     
  2. Watching strippers: Real-life porn. That's normal porn magnified.

    Strippers grinding you: Real-life porn mega-magnified, plus M. It might not be self-masturbation, but it's still the equivalent of masturbation.

    Of course you'll get hard to that sort of thing!

    In other words, your past week is a full reset. You can no longer say that you've been porn-free since April.

    Your problem now is that you're rewiring your brain to get excited at women doing their thing just for you. I rather suspect that you will have serious problems when you get a normal girlfriend, who expects you to treat her as an equal, and won't perform those sorts of acts for you.

    You haven't said whether you've been no-PMO or just no-P. It makes a big difference.
    • If you've been no-PMO until last week, it is almost certainly an emotional problem (maybe anxiety).
    • If you've only been no-P until last week, you need a full reboot. Your brain and penis are accustomed to your hand.
    Here's what I suggest, based on what I've read on these forums and the main site:
    • Restart full no-PMO. If you've been masturbating all this time, go for the full 90-day reboot. Otherwise, you might be OK with a 30-day reboot. Remember: no-P means no-P in any form, including strip clubs.
    • Once that's done, move on to no-PM. You don't say if you've used prostitutes, but if so, they are also a big no-no for the same reason that strip clubs are a big no-no. A prostitute is, again, porn mega-magnified.
    • If you still struggle to have normal sex after your reboot, get therapy. I suggest hypnotherapy, but you'll have to decide what appeals to you.
    This is my opinion, of course, so take what you agree with.
     
  3. LilD

    LilD Fapstronaut

    Hey @RevFlav100,

    To me, recovery is not just quitting porn, but not using other human beings for my sexual pleasure unless they want that too. Strip clubs, in this case, are much more problematic than porn, not to mention it also costs money, so I'm harming myself and literally paying for that. It doesn't matter through which medium I see those women (real life, screen, or paper), the problem is me being addicted to watching them.

    Also, sex is not the end goal for me. The end goal is being happy, which I barely ever was in my life. Just having sex won't do the trick, I have more than just that one problem of not having sex, and not having sex is one of the least severe ones.

    That is your life and your choice, but for the reboot part of your question my answer is, "yes, why not?" Whether to attempt to have sex again (and when) is on you. I decided to postpone that until the moment when I'll be happy with my own life and will be able to share my happiness with a woman I like.
     
  4. RevFlav100

    RevFlav100 Fapstronaut

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    Just to clarify, I was doing no PMO, not just no P. I don't masturbate any more. Haven't fucked prostitutes. I think a 30 day reboot would do a lot of good, then after that I will continue rewiring.
     
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  5. That is a bizarre statistic. I don't know where you read it, but it's either a parody of misogyny or a downright lie. Don't believe it.

    Correct. They aren't exactly the same. They're worse. Masturbation with porn trains your brain to need hyperstimulation for sexual pleasure. So does lap dancing, but now you need a real woman performing unreal acts.

    Think carefully about what this associates sexual pleasure with. It also has the potential to lead to a fetish.
     
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  6. Though it can be somewhat fun if you like spending money on women that have no interest in you except cash , my advice as an older strip club going customer who quit years ago SAVE YOUR MONEY, MEET REAL WOMEN
     
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  7. RevFlav100

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    Thanks everyone for the comments. I am going to stop frequenting the strip club, resume dating and be more patient with the rewiring process. I know that I am getting better due to the random erections and bigger wood in the AM, but I'm not there yet. One thing I know for sure is I'm never going back to watching porn.
     
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  8. RevFlav100

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    I am serious about getting over ED and rewiring to real women. I am not as sexually exhausted as I used to be due to massively decreasing orgasms and not masturbating. However, I see your point about the risk of relapse into pornography again. I am gonna quit while I'm ahead!
     

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