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Parallels between rape victims and us

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by cae, Feb 5, 2015.

  1. cae

    cae Fapstronaut

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    A while ago, I happened to come across an online article about/for victims of sexual abuse, especially those who were raped at an early age. Interestingly, I found parallels to our situation:

    #1 Those, who have been raped as a child, sometimes happen to feel guilty, even though, of course, it's obviously not their fault at all. So you see, guilt is a tricky concept. We tend to feel guilty too, and yes, of course we're not completely innocent after all. But we shouldn't feel overly guilty, more than appropriate. It will just hinder us to make progress.

    #2 Rape victims might feel some degree of sexual arousal during or even still after the incident. Another source of guilt and nagging self-doubt. Yet, this is just a natural physical reaction, that has nothing to do with the person's view on it. You see, we too feel aroused by things, that we actually condemn. But after all, this is just a physical/psychological reaction too. So stop feeling too guilty for being aroused by dirty images or whatever, no matter who perverted it may be. As I said, it's a reaction of your brain/body that's partly natural and partly trained. And it will fade eventually, if you keep determined to stay away from it.

    What do you think?
     
  2. ritani

    ritani Fapstronaut

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    Nope.
    I disagree.
    You should feel guilty for looking at others having sex, with lust in your heart.
    The things we see in porn are not as natural as you suggest. The reason many of us are here is because we realize sex in porn is nothing like real life. Yet it's now, after years of viewing it, the only thing that turns an addict on. Hence the need to "reboot"
     
  3. cae

    cae Fapstronaut

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    What you wrote makes me feel like you didn't even read my post?!? :(

    Of course, P + M is unnatural and you should feel guilty for it.

    Of course, the things displayed in P are unnatural.

    Of course, the problem is, that it will become the only thing, that turns an addict on.


    However, what is natural, is how a man's brain reacts to this stuff, even though it's just as unnatural as rape. That's a fact. You will learn, that even after a very long streak, these things can still be very tempting at times (even though they might be totally not-tempting at other times). And also, addicts tend to feel overly guilty, which has a negative effect.

    Try reading my post again...
     
  4. Immor

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    Kind of an unlucky comparison - A rape victim has very little control over the event, unlike - at least in theory - someone who masturbates.

    But yes, it's natural to react to the images and there is no need to feel guilt, as you are not harming anyone .. except yourself and thus anyone who has hopes and expectations in you or might be helped by you, if you were not busy fapping.
     
  5. cae

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    I was not trying to liken us to rape victims. I was just pointing out parallels regarding psychological reactions and patterns, that helps to view our situation in perspective.
     
  6. needstostop

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    Interesting take on things cae. I think the parallel could perhaps carry further as well if one considers the initial exposure to pornography and masturbation, particularly if it is at a young age before you really understand what it is that you're viewing or doing.
     
  7. skart

    skart Guest

    We shouldnt consider ourselves as victims. Thats self destruction.
     
  8. cae

    cae Fapstronaut

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    Maybe I like to think about it that way because I was starting to look at P at very young age, long before I could know what I was actually doing. Of course, that sparked a development which was hard to get under control. When I realized what was happening, it was already too late. Even when I started fighting against it, I was barely able to get away. That's why I felt like a "victim" of my own (misguided) urges.
     

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