Would own girlfriend / wife's pics be considered as pornography?

Definitely. It doesnt really matter who the person is as long as it does the job of fueling that need.

 

Try this on your wife or girlfriend.

I have a useful tip for urges, it works wonders for me. Male addicts view women as 'meat', especially the chest. Sure, it's normal to be attracted to them, but dehumanising them is not. Here's what you should do: Imagine a row of buckets in front of you and the girl you are thinking of sexually. Imagine taking her outerwear, and putting it into a bucket, then her innerwear, then rip off her skin, then her muscles, tendons, ligaments, bones, each one getting a bucket. Slowly you deconstruct her body. Do it to her fat, her organs; those round, juicy eyeballs, imagine all the blood, sweat, tears, urine and feces and put them into a bucket. You don't have to literally count the buckets, but try visualing the different parts. Focus on the buckets that disgust you more intently. Try looking at the breast fat now, with that red blood sureounding it, squishy, unfirm, or whatever else that's repulsive. I got this tip from a succesful fapstronaut. It rewires an over sexually-conditioned porn addict to respect women, as you visualise the horrific 'meat' girl. I'm not married, but according to that guy, he tried it on many women, till he did it on his wife. Since then, he's never wanted to see her wife as other than her ownself. Do this when you have badthoughts, and on porn videos.

 

Interesting idea, never heard or thought about this before

 

Yes I think it should be considered like porn, cause that's what it is: a bunch of data, not a real human being. The whole point is to stop watching photos (AND videos of course), stupid files that is still and not living.

So disgusting that it might work. Thanks for the advice.

 

As a response to the original question. It is P. There’s no question about it. Explicit photos of a female is P. Now whether you are willing to to make an exception for this specific type of P is a relevant question. And it all comes down to what rules and boundaries you put for yourself during this reboot journey. Some people say it is harmful for the progress, maybe it is. You’re doing the right thing thinking about it and posting the question here. I think it’s important that you make a decision. The rules needs to be clear. Good luck with everything!

 

Sure, it may be technically porn, but there are a couple big differences:

1.) When you're doing PMO, how often are you just watching 1 vid for an hour or two? How long do you go on a porn site for 1 particular woman? Sure, a few times if she's new, I get it, but you can't tell me you're looking at the same woman on a porn site over years and years. New women, situations, and styles provide new stimulation and keeps that dopamine super high.

2.) You are having a personal connection with your wife/gf, verus a random porn star that has no idea you exist. Your wife/gf is making a video/photos for YOU.

Worrying about looking at your sexual partners being naked is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. May as well just stop having sex all together. If you want to be celebate forever, then fine, and good luck trying to have a romantic relationship.

I'll say it again to emphasize:

You're worrying about seeing your sexual partner naked.


That being said...
If it actually triggers you into seeing a bunch of other porn sites, than ok, it's a trigger and it's wise to avoid triggers. In this case the problem is that it's triggering, and classification of whether it is "porn" or "not porn" is completely irrelevant.

 

Yes it's porn and you're treating your wife or gf as an object for you to get off on. Her body and sexuality is to be enjoyed with her along with her soul in something called a "connection".

 

Unless I'm missing something, I don't see where the poster says he uses the pictures for "getting off"?
If you SO sends you or gives you a NSFW picture of herself, then that is absolutely not porn. I'm assuming she isn't touching herself or engaging in any sex act?
Sex counselors will suggest these things to spice up a relationship. You're at work, you get a picture and you become very anxious to get home to her, where is the problem??? She is your wife, not an object, even if it is a picture, it is still her.

 

Just have sex with your gf, like why you jackin off when your girls right tjere

 

For the mind of a person who is addicted, it absolutely is.

I'm sure sex counselors do but not for someone who is addicted to porn.

That'd be like only doing heroin with your wife.

I maybe making an assumption in that he may not be addicted but seeing as how this board is about porn addiction, I'd guess yes.

Of course this is my opinion which is based on my personal experience. I'm not a counselor though I've seen plenty specifically about porn addiction while in a relationship.

Counselors opinions vary to some degree and you have your own opinion so we may have to agree to disagree here.

 

I made the mistake of thinking that naked pics of my wife would not be porn. It absolutely is and it made me objectify my romantic partner whom I love. It’s no bueno no matter how you want to classify it.

 

Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. It's great that you can see that.

I had one, deleted it because we broke up. Months later, I'm going thru pmo withdrawal and I'm like searching everywhere for it, looking in the trash can, old hard drives.
You'd think I lost a winning lottery ticket because in my mind, that wasn't porn. Yet I wanted that so bad.

Its messed up man

 

Sorry to hear that buddy but give yourself some credit, you did 8 days and you learned something very valuable.

When you learned how to ride a bike did you just get on the bike and ride without ever falling?
This is something that takes time and practice.

If you want to join an accountability group, come check out my X90 group over in Accountability.

 

All valid points, I will continue to steer clear of this in the future. I guess getting them isn't the issue, it is keeping them? Am I right?

 

If you identify yourself as addicted to porn then getting them and keeping them is gonna be a trigger.

Say a few years down the road and you've been free from this for almost as long you get into a serious relationship and you get some then. Will that be a problem?

It's too early to say. Hopefully you'll be in a committed relationship with someone you love and it wont be a problem. You'll be able to see for yourself if its causing an issue.
If you're using that and go to other p then obviously yes.

Your mind will work differently when you are free of this for a while.