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Why fapping without porn could be helpful

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Deleted Account, Jan 13, 2019.

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  1. If you don't care what other are saying why bother making the thread?
     
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  2. And also one more thing, I think it is inhuman to fap "many times" really. If you do it consciously, without porn, you'll be half dead. The last time I fapped, I think it has been five days, I feel like I am beating myself more and not really fapping at all. Hahaha.
     
  3. I am sorry about that, my mind is not working at that time, but I have just expressed what I am feeling at that time. I am sorry your highness, I promise to never do that again.
     
  4. I am no expert man but, I think being open to life would bring much more to us than, making limitations for ourselves. For me, you did a great job there. My parents never dared to open about these kind of things, and here I am now, in these crazy nofap journey they sayin'.
     
  5. I am no expert man but, I think being open to life would bring much more to us than, making limitations for ourselves. For me, you did a great job there. My parents never dared to be open about these kind of things, and here I am now, in a crazy nofap journey they sayin'.
     
  6. Mattew

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    That is not helpful at all.
     
  7. Oh, yes, of course.
     
  8. Oh you are God, the almighty. You just know it all, right? Why even bothering to open a topic if you are being rude to other's and have zero interest in what they're saying? Also, you are dumb as shit. You don't even know what you're talking about. You think you're a walking encyclopedia, just to realize in few years how wrong you are. Masturbating is wrong all the way down. Once in a while won't hurt you. But since most are here addicted to porn, they will become addicted to fapping as well. And you think M won't hurt your body? All the energy your body needs to O. Tbh, you would be a good dictator :)
     
  9. Mattew

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    If yours experience tells you it is helpful for you, i believe that. my experience tells me it's not helpful for me, and many other porn addicts, but we are not all equal, so, if it's helpful for you, do it.
     
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  10. Yes man, you are so perfectly right.
     
  11. Yeah man, porn is already dropped for me. I think I am gonna stick with it. Urges does not bother me anymore cuz fapping without porn is a hell a lot of work. I think my mind learned something and I learn something too. I don't care what methods do you use in your journey, if it works, it works. We are not here to argue with each other but to share our own experiences. If I have been rude to anyone, I am sorry it is just me being me. I am just expressing my feelings here, I am not here to fight with anyone.
     
  12. edreenbryan

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    Is it OK to masturbate without porn?
     
  13. Is it normal to masturbate? Yes. Is it normal to do it with porn? I don't think so. In my experience, drop the P first, you can still MO, but do it mindfully, stay alert while doing it. The MO'ing will drop on their own depending on your level. You can try it on your own. It works for me. I hope it can work for you.
     
  14. Mattew

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    How much have you been on NoFap? When was the last time you watched porn? How long have you been doing pmo?
     
  15. md70

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    it is very obvious that nothing works for everybody, even one pill won't work for everybody and some respond very well to it and some not.
    for me masturbating without porn just makes me fantasizing more about sexy girls and brings my porn memories! which makes me more horny and eventually after a couple of times leads to watching porn again! (which is my real problem!) that's because my brain got used to watching porn and it never gets satisfied and always wants more and more pleasure which is porn! so no, for me and people like me it is not a good idea!
     
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  16. ZenAF

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    I agree, everyone has to find their own path which is suited to their way of handling themselves.
    All I can say is that I have been at your position before: Just MO, dropping porn, but then went back to porn after a couple days because the fantasies weren't intense enough after a certain point and I needed porn again.

    However, I'm doing it again, no jerking off to porn but I allow myself MO. I'm on my longest streak yet (I know, not much compared to some guys here :)) and it's never been easier. What I've changed this time is that I allow myself to look at porn if I feel like it (but no masturbation). That does three things: 1. It teaches my brain porn isn't a scary seductress that can turn me anytime, it's just some videos and in effect "I've seen them all". 2. Porn does not lead to orgasm any longer -> slowly makes it uninteresting for my brain. 3. I don't have to struggle with mental battles. I just watch a few minutes until I'm bored and get on with my day.

    The other thing I've changed to last time is that I'm sticking with my decision to not jerk off to porn. I don't give myself the option to fail, there's no "Let's see, let's test if this works". The only time when I was wavering was a couple days ago when I came home very stoned, usually my favorite state to consume porn and my Nr. 1 reason for all relapses so far. But this time I've resisted because I've made a decision and I actually mean it. No jerking off to porn. Period.
    I'm feeling very confident to keep this up for another 3 month at which point I will also stop looking at porn.
     
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  17. md70

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    Dude trust me, i did this too, watching porn for a couple of minutes!! no touching, just watching without any wrong move :D pretending everything is cool and yeah once that worked for almost 2 months!! but eventually i couldn't resist i relapsed with porn, u know i think every addiction must be stopped once and for all and it is actually difficult as hell. I'm sorry saying this but i think your brain is deceiving you! to get what it wants (porn!!)
    Anyway that didn't work for me, but i wish you luck.
     
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  18. ZenAF

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    I don't think my brain wants porn. I think my brain wants to orgasm. And porn is the easiest way to get there. Did you masturbate during the two month? Did you have sex?
    Anyway, thanks for the warning. At the end of the day I don't think that stopping to look at it helps you not to relapse. What matters is whether you stick with your decision. We always have a choice. Every time. Before every relapse. Porn can't force us to do shit. It's a choice. It's only hard if you haven't really decided yet. If you have doubts, then there's a inner fight. If you know what you want, it's easy. If it feels easy, no struggle, you're doing it right.
    Remember we want to decrease the stimulant in the brain. Decrease it's intensity, decrease it's occurrence. I do that first by removing the orgasm. It has to become boring. If you make it taboo too early it becomes more exciting, not more boring. I've tested it all.. Relapsed countless times with lot's of methods. This one works the best by far and I trust in it.
    But I will remember your warning and keep my guard up!
     
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  19. I have never forced you to do anything. The title says, "Why fapping without porn could be helpful". I mean it could be helpful because, you cannot just not masturbate. Lets face it. When I said fap without porn, that means fapping as alert as possible and without porn. That's what I do. I don't care if you don't fap because someone said they have become successful with it. I am just suggesting a more natural way to approach your addiction. I don't know why you start fappin, for me becuz of porn. Porn is my problem, I don't know what's yours. Maybe I am not thag really experienced to talk about this things, but I just suggesting that can be helpful to you. If it creates confusion to you, it is your problem. I repeat I am just trying to make a suggestion. I am not forcing you, instead of saying "That's bad. This man is crazy." Can you please just share your experiences cuz we are not here to prove ourselves, our egos. So please be open guys. Someone ask about my progress, it does not matter to you, but I have dropped the porn just last week. Have been in Nofap for almost two years, unoffical. Just MO'ing when urges are so strong that I can handle them. Most of the time, meditate on them and they would calm down on their own.
     
  20. One more thing, successful people never practiced Nofap, just to be clear with you guys. It is misleading many people here. They have transcended masturbation, they do not stop fapping. Fapping for them is just useless for them. It is the same with celibacy. It is not that sex is bad, it is just that you have transcended it that's why you do no sex. So unless you transcend or you understand really the root of your sexual urges, it is nothing. You are just not fapping but deep inside you want to know, you want to explore it. But they say fapping is bad so you don't fap. I even thought that what they say is porn is bad, but masturbation? If you cannot fap with porn that's good. Why the hell connect masturbation with porn. Masturbate if you want, do not say that it just make me fantasize more about girls hence porn. I feel more bad for you if you are fantisizing about guys. Cuz it is normal that girls are attractive for us, what's bad about it. Fap if you want, but without porn and do it consciously. If you don't want then continue your Nofap streak or whatever you call it. I am not forcing you to do anything. I am just trying to show you something that has been helpful to me. I maybe still unexperienced at this level but, there are people out there that have done the same thing and have succeded on it. Lets learn from them.
     

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