Flatline

Dead dick? Is your penis small like an acorn size?

 

Great question. And I empathize with your situation. I have a few thoughts to share. First, I do recommend visiting a doctor, to be sure that there are no other underlying causes for the ED you are experiencing. After that, I strongly recommend a hard mode reboot. No P, no M, not even hooking up with anyone. Since your issue sounds mild, it shouldn’t take too long before you are back to your normal, hard self. I do recommend a 90 day reboot.

I had PIED for ten years. When I did a 100 day hard mode reboot, I went through three distinct flatlines. During one of them, my penis was smaller than I can ever remember it being and was cold to the touch...like ice cold. During all the flatlines, I wasn’t interested in sex - or anything really - and couldn’t get hard at all. I can assure you that M’ing will not help you progress, and will set you back in your healing. The brain needs time to rewire, and M’ing will slow that process down.

I learned to feel a sense of gratitude for the flatlines. For two reasons; first, it means that the brain is repairing and rewiring the connections around sex and stimulation; and second, it makes it easier to abstain from PMO related stumbling points.

As for the relationship with this girl, if it’s a serious relationship you’re interested in, tell her the truth about what you’re going through. There is no substitute for honesty in a relationship and she should know what she’s getting involved in from the beginning. If you aren’t interested in a relationship, I recommend you skip seeing anyone until you’ve finished your reboot. Same goes for if you are unwilling to be honest about your circumstances with a new partner. I assure you, women are going to be more understanding and receptive to your journey than you’d expect.

As for how to make the reboot more manageable, I strongly recommend you focus on what you are doing rather than what you’re not doing. Meaning, don’t focus on “stopping PMO”. Instead, focus on meditation, spending time with family and froends, exercise, work, self-improvement, and other such positive things.

I also recommend removing from your life anything that stimulates the addiction/reward center of the brain. I gave up caffeine, weed, alcohol, FB (and all social media), sugar, and anything else that I felt was a crutch or escape - including fantasies on my own mind.

After my reboot, I started introducing one of those things at a time. FB is okay for me in moderation, but IG isn’t. Weed is okay on occasion, but caffeine is not. Everyone is different. You might not need to be so strict/intense about your recovery; but I recommend you seriously consider what other things you utilize to get the feel good chemicals flowing, and avoid them during your reboot.

 

Very impressive response sir! Much appreciated. I am at 80 days hard mode and still flatline but I do get morning wood though. I was hoping for some libido response up to now but will probably take another week or two. You were talking about 100 days, obviously on hard mode. Why didn’t libido come back for you. I am older at 39 so hoping it will not take as long.

 

Can you still be in a flatline if your penis isn’t cold? And how do you handle tackling on the brain fog?

 

Thanks for the props. I always take my time to share my responses as clearly, honestly, and humbly as possible.

As for the libido issue, I was a heavy user of many escape mechanisms for many years. So my issue was compounded and my brain chemistry was way off. I’ve been sexually actively with my SO since day 100, so for a few months. But we keep it to just once or twice a week at the moment to avoid having her become my escape. We also focus on the intimacy part of the experience rather than the physical/sexual part.

My libido has been pretty consistent, but does come and go at times. Overall, it’s back to where it was years ago, but I am expecting my recovery to continue to have ebbs and flows.

 

To your first point, yes! Absolutely. Flatline looks different for everyone.

As for brain fog, I took lots of naps and meditated a lot. I also found that focusing on good nutrition made a big difference. Stay away from sugar, caffeine, etc. Focus on eating real foods (not from packages), keeping hydrated, exercise, and spending time socializing.

 

I am curious...

Could he hook up with the girl without having any PIV sex? Just for the kissing, hugging, intimacy? Last time i was with a girl, that shit was worth the same as the plain sex for me.

 

Everyone is different. The most importing aspect of the recovery process is being honest with yourself. For some, making out will be too much. For others, naked cuddling might be okay. My opinion is that when in doubt, err on the cousious side. If you are unsure, better to skip it.

 

I know my response might not be in line with what some of the others have said - when I went through my initial reboot, it took a masturbation session to bring me out of flatline - to jumpstart my libido in effect. IMO, masturbation is quite healthy as long as it's not overdone - once or twice a week at most and you just have to stay completely away from porn and fantasizing. Nowadays, following those rules, by somewhere around 60-72 hours post-orgasm I start getting pretty darn horny in general where the sight of just about any decent looking female will get me cranked up.

So do what you think is best for you - experiment to see what works best for your body. I'd been watching porn for about ~15-20 years regularly, masturbating pretty much every day and once I started having some issues getting full erections with my wife, I found yourbrainonporn.org and made some changes - specifically, no more porn and try not to fantasize. I also try to go at least 3 or so days between orgasms and when I masturbate I just jerk off to my own thoughts without any visual aids. Following that process, within about ~15 days I could get strong erections with the wife again. Key is just no porn, and DON'T FANTASIZE. It's hard not to fantasize, but as soon as you feel your thoughts drifting, find something to pull them back and concentrate on something else, chores around the house, working out, etc.

Good luck dude.

 

This is already a very positive sign for a healthy relationship.

If she is fine with it and not pressuring you to sex, then this will probably very nourishing for you.
But i would talk to her about it, even if it is just to test her character. Let her know what is going on.

The women who are good for us are awesome and understanding. Just show her that you will make her happy regardless of whether you have PIV sex or not.

 

happened 2 me first time i had sex(kinda) half hard in her V. Couldnt feel much.. fucking awful!

 

BAHAHAHA i had the same day as you mate.
I MO without any porn, and it felt fucking awesome. And it got rid of this annoying urge that i want to bang every single pretty girl i see on the street. Has truly been a good day.
Lost a bit of energy, but that'll come back in a few days.
It feels to me like i can go 2-3 weeks before my body really starts to go nuts. Literally.

 

May i ask what your levels where? ( I am just copying this from another post i made in case you didn't see it):

I can provide testosterone levels after 4 Days of Nofap and 22 Days of Nofap.
BUT... Keep in mind that the blood used was taken on different times of the day.
The first measurement was at 9am and the second at around 11:30am.
As far as i know, testosteron levels are the highest in the early morning and drop continuously throughout the day.

1st: 04. January 2019: 5,82ng/ml (around 9am)
2nd: 22. January 2019: 4,59/ml (around 11:30)

Average testosterone levels for a man are between 2,49 - 8,36ng/ml or 249-900ng/dl.
At the time of the taking of the blood sample i was already working out in the gym for over 1 month, continuously for 5 days a week, with strenght based workouts being the priority and the occasional run every 1-2 weeks. And prior to that, i was working out without a gym at home for over 2 years.