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PORN should turn you OFF, not turn you ON

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by ultrafabber, Feb 8, 2019.

  1. ultrafabber

    ultrafabber Fapstronaut

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    Seriously it's completely backwards to get turned on by porn.

    Imagine how humiliating it would be to fancy a woman, some other dude getting in her pants, you accidentally walking in on them and getting a boner seeing the woman you fancied get fcked. Them seeing it. Imagine how extra humiliating it would be to start touching yourself at the sight of it and even more... them seeing you do it.

    Imagine what that woman would think of you. Imagine what that guy would think of you.

    There is literally nothing on Earth more humiliating than that. Even if they don't see you... you instinctively know how wrong it is and how you hit rock bottom.

    We are living in completely degenerate end times boys, this stuff is not normal at all.

    If you see someone else having sex, you just walk away and let them get at it and find a woman for yourself. Seeing some other dude getting some should turn you off, cause you're not getting any. It should frustrate you, NOT excite you.

    When another man is inside a woman, it's definitely NOT the time to mate for YOU. It's the complete opposite, you can't possibly be farther away from mating with a woman when another penis is in that woman.

    PORN. SHOULD. NOT. TURN. YOU. ON.

    SHOULD.

    TURN.

    YOU.

    OFF.
     
  2. RaHorus

    RaHorus Fapstronaut

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    and we know this subconsciously already, I know from the effects that it has on me comparing before and after pmo .. cant even make eye contact
     
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  3. If only I could convince myself of this before I start instead of immediately after I finish. I think everyone has that "what the fuck am I doing moment" right when they finish, but it's too late by then and then it starts all over. I think that we PMO addicts have become experts at eliminating that male actor and placing ourselves in the scene. The producers are also making this easier to do with the rising popularity of POV style videos. So yeah, rational thought tells us how ridiculous this is, but no one in the midst of their addiction is thinking rationally. The P industry uses a pretty big hook, so we need better strategies to defeat this addiction.
     
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  4. I think giving up on porn for as long as I have is contributing to my strong eye contact. There's nothing I do behind closed doors that I am trying to hide from others so it kind of reflects in my actions.
     
  5. ultrafabber

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    You will think I am trolling but this is what i did to finally solve the "what the fuck am I doing" thing. Next time you relapse, RECORD yourself. I am serious. record yourself in a wide shot and even look at the camera every once in a while and when you finish. Then watch the vid a couple of times.

    Also, masturbate in front of the mirror.

    These two things will make you realize what you're actually doing.
     
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  6. How about a lonely girl doing her usual sensual dance in front of the camera ,then undressing ? It tricks you thinking she's doing it for you! She's alone after all!
     
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  7. That ,I agree with that. It will instantly show how pathetic you look when wanking the bank.
     
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  8. ultrafabber

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    Not that bad but still emasculating. Women undressing or being sexy is teasing and teasing is mostly powerplay. When she teases you so that you ejaculate without having sex with her or gets your attention without giving you anything, she basically made you her bitch.
     
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  9. That's actually an interesting perspective over there.
     
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  10. Interesting. Too bad I'm camera shy though. Might've tried the mirror thing in the past but that obviously didn't deter me.
     
  11. LilD

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    I do that often.
     
  12. ultrafabber

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    Capturing it on camera first and seeing it later when you're not aroused is the important part. You should not be camera shy cause it will only be you who watches it. Recording yourself helps you feel "watched" instead of being "hidden"


    I don't think it's good to do it often. In my case it helped because a few weeks earlier I recorded myself masturbating and then watched it a couple of times when I was not aroused (and even just after having filmed it) and it helped me see the ridiculousness of it all. Then I masturbated in front of the mirror and i saw the ridiculousness "live"
     
  13. I like your post, that's totally true(although girls do it too so guys can be disappointed from them as well). But really it doesn't work like that.....
     
  14. ultrafabber

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    You make an interesting point. For someone who used to record themselves on a regular basis and get pleasure out of, this may not be good. However i reckon a very small minority of pmo addicts do this. Streaming oneself on videochat rooms is not the point and does not count as what I meant, the point is a local recording for watching later.

    However, it's not just about recording, but about watching yourself AFTER, in a non-sexual state. So basically watching yourself when you are not aroused and you can think clearly about what you're actually doing.
     
  15. ultrafabber

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    If watching themselves masturbate is something they sexualize then yes, it may not be a good option (when they can sexualize it). However, watching it 3-10 minutes after ejaculation is watching it in a desexualized manner because of the prolactin spike. Maybe for some they can go for round two, but at some point, after one or more ejaculations, it's biologically impossible for them to be sexual, which is when this should be targeted.

    We definitely disagree that this advice doesn't apply to anyone because i consider it actually applies to most since most people do not ever record themselves masturbating and watch it later.
     
  16. ultrafabber

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    Yes, we definitely disagree on that.
     
  17. I am terribly addicted to P but all in all its just a basic human need .Sex is a strong force ,that releases strong emotions .Doesnt matter if you do it or just watch it .Seeing other people do it is not wrong and does not make you an addcit or Looser.Lots and lots of people have sex in groups.Some are more active ,others like to watch it . Its not humilating in my opinion .
    Like my first thought is that the post appears like a message to women like " You are mine ,if another dude catched you earlier ,i lost and i am humiliated by that". But in reality women and men have a lot of different partners and sexual adventures in this world.So when the dude gets her it wasnt meant to be or your doings were twisted and she didnt get what you wants .And its a good thing because the times where people were forced by law/religion to live together are over.

    But i would say in a Nofap conext its humilating ,like in reality it you only get turned on ,by sitting in front of a window ,watching people do it and you give them commands ,so you can see your fantasies .Thats kind of a dissociation because reality and your mind wont have a connection,cause sitting and thinking is not doing it,even if it feels so :)
     
  18. It wasnt a try .I meant to say ,sexuality is a basic human need .Porn is an abstraction of that .But through mankind people worshipped all kinds of porn like the Venus of Willendorf(little statue with striking properties),The God Eros was more mighty and famous than Zeus,or handdrawn women in the middleage,whatever you wish for...,but i guess its how you use that stuff and how you decide to live to progress and evolve.The first post claimed that porn shouldnt turn you on ,but i think its the purpose of it and its fine .Porn is not the root of all evil .
     
  19. Ye im no native speaker,so defining words or contexts isnt my need ,but i refered to this text https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...t-human-nature/201210/humans-need-intercourse Also i didnt searched for a conlfict ,but i was thinking when you try NF and come to the conclusion that watching porn should turn you off ,then you have to change your whole personality or just your whole being,to support this belief ,because you will get turned on by sexuality ,else i guess you are not complete or the way you chose will be a really unique and commited one .But i guess even monks living on a lonely mountain have these urges.If you cant run from it fight it.
     
  20. This gave me a lot of insight into why my abusive ex girlfriend would tease me a lot, and be very keen to see me with an erection even when she didn't want sex etc. Good point, nice one.

    keep fighting
     
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