Okay jackoffs, what does a "healthy" "moderate" masturbation lifestyle look like?

I'd say it is always without porn. How often is healthy depends I guess. Probably sporadic enough to avoid getting sucked back into addiction, which is probably never for most of us.

 

Many will not agree with me
But masturbation can never be healthy.....
Even if it doesn't affect you mentally
But you are exhausting yourself.....

 

Jerking off is for pussies.No man should play with his little pee-pee, it's fucking childish.Done.

 

For a porn addict it's definitely w/o porn. And I would say healthy is that what isn't unhealthy. (Even medicine has no better concept of health - it's the absence of pathologic symptoms).
So if you jack off now and then and it serves as some kind of relief without producing or prolonging issues it counts as healthy.

By the way, abstinence from masturbation is NOT a healthy form of masturbation. So the answer to the question "what is healthy masturbation?" can't be "no masturbation". Strictly logical but also - in my opinion - from an ethical standpoint.
Sexual abstinence is a choice. You can try it, use it as a tool to get away from pmo and over-stimulation, you can play with it and you can live it. You're also allowed to recommend it, obviously.
But whats the use of propagating it here all the time??! This is a freakin' porn addiction recovery site! People come here with sexual issues not as aspirants for a monastery. As if our issues alone wouldn't be difficult enough, now we all shall live like saints. Ok, where can I leave all my worldly posessions? Where's the pile? (Irony)
If at least this would come from real abstinent monks. But in reality they're jackoffs just like me. Pretenders.
Sigh~

 

I would say a healthy masturbation lifestyle is when you masturbate only when you need it ( when you feel horny and the urge to release sexual tension , or to be overall more relaxed) instead of doing it when you are just bored as a way to spend your free time.

 

I would say P,M, or O is healthy when:

When it does not affect your work and home life.
You do not have to hide it from other people. It's not a big deal.
You don't isolate yourself from family and friends to spend time with PMO.
Intimacy and expressing emotions is easy for you.
PMO does not make you feel bad.
You do not experience some type of sexual dysfunction because of it.
It causes no harm neither to yourself nor to others.
You can refrain for a period of time and return without any of the above symptoms returning.

But that's my own definition. You have to think about what healthy means to you. Just keep in mind that many people here are dealing with addiction problems and will likely never be able to return to PM at any amount and have it be healthy, so there might be some rather extreme definitions of what healthy means for them.

 

I agree with DefeatPorn.
I think everyone should discover what healthy means to him. In my opinion there's no optimal amount of days which is the same for everyone.
The important thing is that you should be honest to yourself whether or not it affects your life. Is it a mechanism used to escape reality or is it an act of self-love?
For me personally I think it would send me back into a downward spiral, so probably the healthy lifestyle for me would be without PM.

 

I have thought about this for years. I have considered and tried the no-porn self-love kind of masturbation that you do every month or twice a month or so. It has a certain magnetism to it because it seems like it's much more pure and healthy than PMOing every day.

Unfortunately I have come to the conclusion that any kind of masturbation is a trap which hurts you. No matter how appealing it seems, no matter how pure and loving it seems, no matter how you think it's just a healthy expression of your sexual energy or whatever language you want to come up with to describe it, the end result is still that it dulls your senses and makes you less proactive in your life.

At the end of the day, if you masturbate, you are giving yourself some temporary pleasure by using up some of your sexual energy. It is my opinion that only a child uses his energy to give himself some cheap pleasure like this. An integrated man uses his energy to go out into the world and enjoy the many pleasures the world already has available for you to experience.

And, possibly even more important, an integrated man is more interested in cultivating his energy so that he can be someone who is capable of giving his all to other people. He wants to fully be with people, to have his wits and senses fully sharp and clear, so that he can respond to the demands of each moment completely and fully.

In my experience, a man cannot masturbate and still achieve those goals I've just mentioned, at least not to the fully extent that he can achieve them when he doesn't masturbate.

 

I like @DefeatPorn 's definition too. @MonkeyDo that's a nice realisation and it makes 100% sense to me, but have you already quit masturbation to attain that lifestyle? Or is it more like wishful thinking?

Sexual purity as a real achievement and without condoning others is indeed something I admire.
But I'm also wondering: why is it that so many ppl here want to get rid of everything unpure. This impulse may be unhealthy in itself. And for a recovering addict it may be illusional and misleading.

 

I have cut porn out of my life for years now. It has been at least 3 years. I've sort of lost count.

As for masturbation, I've had some long streaks of around 120-160 days, but I always came back to doing it. When I masturbated, I usually did it twice a month. There was enough time in between masturbations to really notice the difference between the "masturbating me" and the "non-masturbating me".

Each and every time that I masturbated, without fail, I turned back into that "masturbating me", and it was always the same experience. I always became a less perceptive, less energetic, less proactive person. And it made me feel ashamed of myself because I wasn't living my life to the fullest. Knowing full well that I could die any day, it made me sad to think that I might die in this less-than-fully-alive state.

Shortly after my 25th birthday I decided that I had had enough, and that I only want to be the "non-masturbating me", now and forever. So I made a one year NoFap pledge, which I am currently on day 26 of. Will I be true to my deeply held beliefs and abstain from masturbation for one year (and beyond)? Only time will tell! So far I can tell you that it's so much more fun to be fully alive. Each day seems like a blessing when I am on NoFap.

I don't know how to respond to your comments about purity. For me purity just means not having parts about myself that I am ashamed of. And I love that feeling!

 

There's nothing wrong with PMO as long as you don't let it twist your view on sex and most importantly as long as it doesn't interfere with your life and you become dependant on it.
As long as you're capable of functioning like a normal human being while jackin' it once in a while with or without P, there's nothing wrong with that.

As an addict who recovered? You shouldn't go back to it because you're pretty much guaranteed to get sucked back into that vortex of addiction.

 

Looks like a shait lifestyle, that's what it looks like.
Mr Dick ain't there for you to squeeze the hell out of it for 3 seconds of pleasure.

 

Both porn and masturbation are unhealthy
Even if you are addicted to any of it
I mean
Watching porn without masturbating
And masturbating without porn
Both are affecting us in negative way

 

hmm... I saw from some websites (i forgot) that it is considered healthy if you do it a couple of times per week, assuming you are single and normal. If you have couple/gf/bf/whatever , you don't need to masturbate.

Of course, since you are here, I want to emphasize on the word "normal". Most of us here are no longer normal. We are porn addicts, masturbation addicts, or having certain problem that hampers us from living our full life. Your goal, my goal, our goal here is to regain the normal life, which includes self-esteem, self-respect, confidence, productiveness, and all good human traits that is unreachable for us due to our fap habit.

My suggestion is, if this is the first time for you to do NoFap, try 90 days without PMO. After that, you may do M and O like most humans do in a controllable manner. But still... Porn is a no. BIG NO. Regardless of your age, gender, race, IQ, money, problems,etc...

 

You know what it is lads, I don't even find ejaculation pleasurable. But ever since starting on my nofap journey, I have always been seduced by the argument that it was better to masturbate occasionally if it limits my craving for porn. But ideally I would never want to masturbate again, believing it to be absolutely senseless, even nihilistic.

 

Well, I have cut down on it immensely. Doing better and feeling better about myself as well. Feel like now I have more motivation to do more things and more energy to spend with my family at home and to improve in my relationships.