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psychiatrist's and sexualogist's advice

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by neutral1000, Mar 9, 2019.

  1. neutral1000

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    I just went to pschyiatrist who names hisself as a sexuologist and ask about masturbation. He said it is natural healthy behaviour, especially if someone is single.
    I told him that I reduced masturbation to several a year, and he said that is not healthy and I should masturbate more.
    What a tricky bastard! I would put his name here if I could.
    What do you thing about such 'professionalists'?
     
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  2. Don't buy it.

    My psychiatrist told me the exact same thing when I told her I think my anxiety/depression is caused by withdrawal from pornography. She thinks I'm too hard on myself, which is causing the anxiety and depression. No one seems to be able to tell me though why relapsing has resulted in extremely painful kidney stones issues in me and why prolonged abstinence (so called hard mode) has resolved this same problem.
    The fact is that masturbation weakens the nervous system and causes a change in bodily chemistry no doctor can explain.

    Masturbation is the devil, withdrawal from severe pmo addiction is hell.

    I have absolutely no idea what's wrong with psychiatrists, all I know is there's a spiritual side to this that has an effect on the physical. Masturbation is only short term relief, in the long term it wears you out and it will cause these psychiatric conditions. This is what these psychiatrists fail to understand. Yes masturbation may lower blood pressure short term and whatever, but after every higher high there's a lower low.
     
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  3. bigboibez

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    Yea theyve completely missed the point as PORN is the evil here. Its been scientifically documented so many times that it causes ED, ruins relationships and down regulates your dopamine. How the fuck is that 'healthy'?

    Masterbation without porn isnt unhealthy, but it is degenerate. For a porn addict, masterbating without porn is just a slope back to porn.

    The only way you should release is with a partner or through a nocturnal emission. It baffles me how much these clowns get paid to spew such bullshit.
     
  4. LilD

    LilD Fapstronaut

    Masturbation is natural, animals do it too. Porn is not natural.

    I think that instead of blaming this guy you should have shown him this forum and explained why is that so many people here struggle trying to quit PMO. Sometimes even professionals don't know everything related to their field of expertise.
     
  5. Player 1

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    Basically it's the booksmart sexologist vs the street smart PMO addict.

    Most "experts" don't know shit because they never experienced what they are talking about.
     
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  6. BigOne79

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    Psychologist are all being trained to treat masturbation this way or so how they have been taught. It is not good to masturbate all the time and it does destroy the energy in your body. You will not attract anyone in your life that way either..
     
  7. LilD

    LilD Fapstronaut

    So you're saying that cardiac surgeons must suffer from heart diseases before they can make surgeries on others? That's ridiculous.
     
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  8. neutral1000

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    If masturbation is natural, why there are so much side effects? I think your statement is just denying addiction, becouse its easy to keep addiction this way saying its natural. Its tricky.
     
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  9. bigboibez

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    Look, this is a pointless argument. It doesnt matter whether masturbation is natural or not, but it is for sure degenerate. For porn addicts, masturbating without porn is a slippery slope back to addiction.
     
  10. spirit_activated

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    Thanks for bringing some balance here. Just because I may have problems maintaining a healthy and balanced relationship with masturbation (or anything for that matter) it doesn't mean that masturbation itself is evil. Too much of anything isn't good for me. I do agree that porn (and certainly the access we have to it with the internet) is not natural. I think masturbation can be beautiful and fulfilling and even needed. Just because some of you may not have that experience doesn't mean it isn't possible.

    I do think this psychiatrist could do better to understand where you are coming from and adapt his advice given your specific situation and circumstances. I don't think a one size fits all approach is helpful–whether it's saying masturbation is "good" or "bad".
     
  11. spirit_activated

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    There's a difference between masturbating and being addicted to masturbating. Masturbating itself isn't degenerate, although being addicted to masturbating certainly is. To deny the possibility of masturbating without being addicted to it seems simplistic to me.
     
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  12. Depressed&Out

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    'Neurons that fire together wire together'. A fundamental rule of a brain.
     
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  13. Player 1

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    I'm talking about psychologists, sexologists and stuff, not doctors or surgeons who are directly saving lives. -_-
     
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