Women, completely off topic, but

I couldn't read everything you wrote bc you didn't put it in paragraphs BUT women aren't always right. That's silly, who told you that?

 

@Xander_
Yeah I get ya.

My experience is with my siblings, really. Without going into name-calling, every time I try to point out a "flaw" (the only way they understand it) that they have or just something they can work on, they literally raise the conversation two decibels. It ends with me getting pissed and ignoring them, and neither one of us learning anything new... I get pissed because they can't take feedback at all, but then I remember everyone has their reasons., they're just assholes about it (i don't count as name calling).

The most recent experience involved me trying to explain that even though kids are young, you should still treat them like how you want them to turn out, e.g. like adults, because if you constantly distinguish between yourself and them using "I am the adult, you are the child," that's how it'll always be. I never got that much out. They talk too damn much. For some reason they are power hungry and don't want anyone "lesser" to disrupt the "balance." I know, I've lived with them for 17 years, give or take, and in the two years I left off, I come back and guess what? Exactly how I left them. Even worse. I guess not everyone grows at the same pace, but even so, I am a polar opposite in comparison to anyone in my family. I would say I have no idea what to do, but I know that just means I need to wait. I am that smart at least.

We grew up in a kind of conservative family where my dad's word was law. I guess they took after that. Funny, they say I act like him because I'm "stubborn." Persistent more like. The only reason the word stubborn exists is to describe someone who won't change or adopt your ideology. That in itself is all kinds of wrong, but I do I consider them stubborn. They use the word stubborn when I won't agree with them or "just drop it." I hate it when they say that because it really is just a way to avoid talking about it. They consistently tell me to drop it when I bring up something hard. I'm glad I challenge them, at least.

They call me stubborn because, yes, I don't like to drop conversations..... when I only get as far as, "I noticed x, y, and z." No, it isn't about being right, either. It's not about anything except taking advantage of the respect and understanding between us so I can properly communicate my feelings about the way they treat my younger sister. Err, I guess I was a little too hopeful, wasn't I?

Anyway, that's just to give a little background. The only reason there is so much friction between us is because it used to be I'd be the one to have to have to shut up or get my ass beat. I guess they were surprised to find out I'm my own sovereign entity. I guess it wasn't fair of me to just show up all "macho"-like. Lol.

Yes, I know I over-analyze. It's kinda my thing.

Edit: LOOK! PARAGRAPHS!!! :

 

Basically

From your above post I can understand your first post a lot more. I also get worked up when people try to shut down any debate or disagreement, and that would be especially hard within your own family. It sounds like your family might misunderstand you a bit. I think it’s possible for you and them to have a healthy relationship with some grace and patience from all sides.

I’m so proud of you for using paragraphs

 

Yeah yeah whatever

Edit: Goddamnit lol

 

Jesus, man... You didn't get the irony of the quote... "Women are always right" means that they always think they are, and that you, as her man, will have to concede to it, or you'll sleep on the sofa and won't have sex for a month hahaha The same way, "the customer is always right" doesn't mean they are always right, it means you have to agree with them (most of the times) to keep them pleased, for they "put food on your table", and you need them pleased, so: "Oh, you sir didn't ask for wine? You asked for beer? Oh, I'm sorry I'll change it now, sir (this motherfucker totally asked for wine and changed his mind later)", but you don't want to embarrass him by telling him that he is either wrong or lying while everyone is listening, because he won't come back. Some people would argue with him, because it is the "fair" thing to do, as if fairness had anything to do with business...

 

Good thing I don't care if my girlfriend leaves me
I am always right

 

Yeah, I don't sleep on the fucking couch

Though I probably will anyway

 

Oh man, not to be mean to you, but you'd fail so bad at owning a Cafe. You'd be amazed at how people's principles and morality take a break when it comes to things that they consider to be "small things", like "oh, he gave me extra change! Well, it is a small amount of money, not gonna go bankrupt for losing a dollar, and I can buy another coffee with it later. So goodbye my friend." And you would know because you see them smile in a surprised way and you run the maths again and realize you did give them extra money.
Most people are fucking shit when it comes to being a customer. You put a fucking ashtray on the table and there's still tons of people throwing their stubs on the ground. Don't even get me started...

 

I totally agree, that makes sense for people you depend on. But I am an independent black woman who don't need no man err woman
She's just in my life because I like her

 

I'm not inclined to think that I know how women think. Some people I respect very much have told me the woman is always right, and I never understood how that can be a thing in general.

In my opinion, it is more respectful to be honest with a person about a disagreement than to assume they are going to make your life hell for it. That's a kind of respect, though, but most people simply refer to it as fear conditioning.

I know how to treat people like equals: Have the same expectations of them as I do myself. I would never fault someone for not knowing what I want 100% of the time, and better, I wouldn't assume they did it on purpose. The great thing about being human is there are over 7 billion of us, and we've been around a very long time. The mistakes myself, you, my girlfriend or anyone else for that matter make have been around for centuries. It's nothing new and I would be surprised if a new kind of mistake came into existence. They are all the same. My point is, according to each other, none of us is better than the other, so what could I possibly gain from assigning more blame?

What's more, a lot of "mistakes" that people make are only mistakes because other people say they are, because other people refuse to keep their bullshit to themselves. If people could just learn to take responsibility for their emotions and realize that no one else has the power to make them happy, the world would be a much better place. Much quieter, mostly, less nagging and people complaining about useless shit.
Ah, done

 

Ah I get it now.

Women only argue about pointless, frivolous things and they all cannot handle being told they are wrong.

 

I don't over think things. I think about them exactly as much as I need to. I've brought up things I've already talked about so it must be relevant. I can't say I've been thinking about this topic for a while, but I learned about it a long time ago and I don't really need to constantly think about it if I simply constantly think about everything else and instantly see how this doesn't fit. Yee.

 

/satire

Everyone here keeps saying the same thing, and it all goes back to why I made this thread in the first place. I realize that probably isn't super clear in my original post, but at least ask a question or two? I'm never going to cave, and neither are you, or you or you. All we got left are questions, right? (as opposed to telling me I'm "over-thinking things," I mean at least I'm thinking, right?)

I'll go first. I don't know what you guys think, but I have lost no sleep thinking about this topic. It did not hurt me at all to hit the "post" button. I really did make this thread out of curiosity and the pursuit of knowledge. Oh yeah, and to criticize people who actually subscribe to the school of thought that it is okay to joke about things like the phrase, "the woman is always right," even if they mean it out of satire. (/sarcasm) Given that, does anyone have any reason for why it would be a good idea? I would like to know.