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Question to all about relapse

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by undopmo, Mar 21, 2019.

  1. undopmo

    undopmo Fapstronaut

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    For those who relapsed.

    What did you felt soon after the time you knew you would relapse, just before relapsing? Did you had any second thoughts? if you tried to resist or had second thoughts how did you felt?
     
  2. undopmo

    undopmo Fapstronaut

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    Can anyone answer? You might have a surprise.
     
  3. I'll try to be courageous - I felt very strange. Normally it is something like: I watched porn and my dick became very slippy and convulsion (I believe that it is proper word). I was excited that I will have orgasm, but I knew that I will regret after a minute. And then you know - shame, guilt, worthlessness.. No more this horrible feeling...
     
  4. undopmo

    undopmo Fapstronaut

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    When you "knew that you would regret after a minute." you felt worse right? But that feeling rapidly vanished and you got aroused again, isnt that it?
    And did you remember that this regret feeling was a lighter version of the worst regret after doing it?
     
  5. Answer to both questions is: Yes. But it is possible to have "regret feeling" and being arouse at the same time. Sperm was still in my body, so despite of regret feeling, I wasn't feeling like shit yet.
     
  6. undopmo

    undopmo Fapstronaut

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    Good answer.
    "But it is possible to have "regret feeling" and being arouse at the same time."
    Yes its possible, but what would you feel if something external interrupts you? For example a friend knocks on your door and says that he knows youre home and will stay in your home for 24 hours because an emergency? How would you feel?
     
  7. maz20

    maz20 Fapstronaut

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    There's pretty much no such a thing as a relapse once flatline hits IMO anyway. PMO is not a "relapse" for anyone with a regular sex drive that ordinarily pursues and has actual sex as the general means of sexual gratification. It's only a "relapse" for those who have more of a "fap-drive" instead--i.e., for whom fap/PMO is more than just, some "secondary means of sexual gratification beneath the sought-after primary one that is actual sex".

    Flatline is the absence of all drive, so that includes anything such even specifically just for fap/PMO as well too.

    Supposedly, though, doing fap/PMO might be called a "relapse" for someone in an intermediate state where one's "fap drive", if any, might already be somewhere on its decline anyway, but I wouldn't call it anything seriously bad since, hey, it's on its way down anyway!
     
  8. undopmo

    undopmo Fapstronaut

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    Maz20 and Satr19,

    There are two people inside of us:
    You and it. All It wants is to be aroused and have an erection, its the limbic part of our brain. the neocortex, you, has moral thinking and has the hability to make commands to all parts of your body. The limbic part has no power over our body, because it cant fullfill it self without your help, so it manifests itself trough imagery, feelings of wanting to get the erection. For example, ask your limbic system to move your hand. Now wait for it. Did your hand moved? Of course not. You are always in control, but it makes you think you loosed it, IT is very clever, and when we are aware of this, we are on control. Notice, aware... the limbic system has no hability of awareness, its only the Survival part of our brains, but you have, and the moment when your enemy wants the stuff, it must convince you first, for you to move and to walk directly to its favorite meat.

    It blinds us in that precise moment of arousing, so you cant ser it. But when you AWARE, you expose IT and you can see this BUG. The awareness is your microscope where you can perfectly see a living bacteria swimming in your blood. Once you are it, you can retake control of your mind and body.


    For example, try to expose the lizard, IT.

    "IT was excited that IT will have orgasm, but YOU knew that YOU will regret after a minute. And then you know - shame, guilt, worthlessness.. No more this horrible feeling..."

    "There's pretty much no such a thing as a relapse once flatline hits in ITs opinion anyway." "

    "PMO is not a "relapse" for anyone with a regular sex drive that ordinarily pursues and has actual sex as the general means of sexual gratification. " -> IT said, so go ahead...

    "for IT, fap/PMO is more than just, some "secondary means of sexual gratification"


    "but IT wouldn't call IT anything seriously bad since, hey, its s on its waydown anyway!"





    Thats how your innerevil speaks to you, it has no regard for you or your life, unless you obey is calling"

    There are many people who had something bad in they life and they are not Addicted. This limbic system uses anything in your mind to get it done, to get the erection"

    Now when you felt worse, it was your limbic system who was making you worst because it was deprived as soon you were AWARE, and the more you areAWARE the more worst you feel, IT is figthing with you to kill you its a lizard part of your brain.

    I will explain more later, this is in hability that we have that was created in us, the hability to be AWARE.

    More to come soon, i Will gather this information in One threath i Will give you the link later.

    Notice that when you feel good after some time, suddenly out of the blue an arousing porn image appears in your head, and your limbic system gets aroused, and because of that you feel an extreme dissapointment of still feeling the arousal, but this dissapointment is in fact your limbic system being deprived, but it wants to think its YOU who is dissapointed, because it knows that after that feeling of dissapointment you Will think that you have lost, and there is no use in resisting. That is what i found after years of addiction, you feel low if you dont do it and you feel low after doing it, but when you are aroused suddenly you dont feel low anymore, its a loop. The lows is your body being deprived of its stuff. When you feel good and get aroused, your right mind reacts after that and says to you something is very wrong with this, then your limbic system automatically atacks you for interfering with ITS arousal and it sends YOU feelings ofdissapointment. BUT you wrongly think that dissapointment was YOURS. So IT blames you for feeling aroused with dissapointment, for what?!?you might think. Yes that right, thats what you thinking, to be aroused again. And it puts you in a loop of dissapointment and arousal, back and forth, until suddenly you dont feel dissapointment anymore, only arousal to get an ejaculation.

    Now after you done it, guess what?? You feel... Yes, dissapointment. Why? The arousal is being repressed by chemicals of satiation, lots of prolactin wish inhibits dopamine, the favorites limbic meat. But the limbic system HATES prolactin, it wants dopamine, it wants arousal, so it sends you feelings of dissapointment again for being deprived. The limbic system wants to be aroused forever, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. But as times passes the prolactin levels reduce again and arousal can start again when IT wants. And everything starts again.

    Now this is what i am finding to be true in me and in almost everyone with this sex related addictions. The goal is to be AWARE of this conspicious limbic tactic and break the cycle. Let IT be dissapointed when you are well, LET IT be dissapointed when you failed. LET IT suffer. You will have to quit and LET the dissapointment run its course, without continuing to allow arousals. The limbic system sees, but YOU are responsible to continue or stop looking. No matter what reazoning you use, IT will make YOU feel dissapointed, unless of course you get a little more aroused, only to be dissapointed again and again and again.

    Now for me i made a commitment for life, and the limbic system will come back again to use its favorite arousal dissapointment tactic. There is no turning back. We cant avoid the arousals to come, but we can stop feeding it by feeling the dissapointment to the peak.
    Dont stop the dissapointment witharousals, stop the dissapointment for letting YOU or IT to be dissapointed.

    Wish you all well.
     
  9. Vir Rex

    Vir Rex Fapstronaut

    My first streak, 3 days, ended when I engaged in some Yoga meditation, supposedly for celibacy, but I ended up inviting some strange being inside of me. Post-ejaculation, I felt absolutely horrible and then resolved to do prayers and intense workouts to preserve my current streak. Now I feel great and have vowed never to masturbate again. I just know that if I felt horrible breaking a 3 day streak then destroying a 50 day streak would ruin me.
     

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