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You won’t masturbate anymore after reading this...

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by BigOne79, Mar 29, 2019.

  1. BigOne79

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    "When you don’t waste your sexual energy, a.k.a. you’re not masturbating, you’re positively charging your sexual energy and masculine polarity." That's so true!
    thank you very much for that article bro
     
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  3. Pedro.Conquers

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    Not to sound heretical but that article is way overexaggerated. The fundamental problem is not that men have sexual energy and want to release it and receive gratification -- the problem is when this is "too closely wired to PMO". In other words, the primary and sought-after means of accomplishing this should be actual sex, not fapping. Fapping is not bad as long as it is only/merely a secondary means of accomplishing that or taking the edge off. Of course, if it is taken as something more than just some "secondary means", well then sure there is a problem there...

    However, the complete abstinence from sexual gratification does not, in the long-term (not short-term), "charge" anything. If anything, it actually increases one's frustration as far as anything sexual goes--this is why this kind of abstinence done over a long period of time can lead to (what over here is called) flatline.

    In other words, yes NoFap is good in general if PMO is more than just that mere "secondary means" of sexual gratification. But, if that's not the case, and one is also not having actual sex in the meantime either, then doing fap/PMO should just be fine. Not everyone who faps is necessarily a fap-aholic (just like not everyone who drinks is an alcoholic!) Positive reinforcement is a part of having libido in the long run (short or temporary stints of general abstinence notwithstanding!)
     
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  5. PMO is never "fine".

    As for flatlines being caused by abstinence, that's a bit like saying that lung cancer is caused by abstaining from smoking. In reality the flatline is a side effect of P addiction, just as lung cancer is a side effect of addiction to cigarettes over a period of time.
     
  6. BigOne79

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    No problem! I’m researching stuff every day on this! I can’t believe how much more I am learning. Please let everyone read this so they don’t end up doing worse to themselves ...
     
  7. BigOne79

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    It was inspirational to me on many levels.. Hope it helps you as well...
     
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  8. Pedro.Conquers

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    It made my day 10x better, i shared it with my friends! Thanks pal.
     
  9. Minnesotan

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  10. Your sperm is your mana. You want to collect your mana and be very conscious where you’re spending it !

    I like this part the most
     
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  11. The statement "fapping is not bad..." is simply untrue. I would concede that it is much less bad that other ways of acting out, but there are no circumstances under which it can be seen as actually good.

    It teaches us to treat ourselves and others as things, means to an end. All human beings are ends in themselves. It is not permissible to use them as though they were things, which is essentially unavoidable in masturbation, due the omnipresent use of mental imagery, even in the complete absence of porn.

    The products of masturbation are always lifelessness and sterility. While it is understandable behaviour, worthy of some degree of compassion, it can never be seen as truly beneficial.
     
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  12. BigOne79

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    Listen, I would like to think that some MO is fine, but it isn’t. Really should not masturbate at all. The essence should always stay within your body. It should never be wasted. It’s what gives man the edge to be great. in my opinion, in life and over others. Porn should be removed from the world permanently.
     
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  13. jorg78

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    NoFap is a part of a puzzle, not the whole puzzle.

    Don't overdo it, like everything else in life.

    It's the porn that you need to stay away from.

    When reaching a goal, I think that masturbation is okay in moderation.
     
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  14. I disagree with your final point, obviously, but well said anyway. Like the ancient Greeks said: Μήδεν άγαν - nothing overmuch.
     
  15. Any update with your nofap journey? You reboot completely or?
     
  16. jorg78

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    I did about 432 days with no porn and no masturbation.

    Now, I do only no porn. NoFap helped me a lot and made me a better man.

    How are you doing mate?
     
  17. 8 months in and still having head tingling sensation and pressure, ear ringing come and go. Right now I can feel nerves sensation in my feet and arms.
     
  18. jorg78

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    Sorry to hear that, hope you will feel better soon :emoji_pray:
     
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