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Remind Me Why Not to PMO

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Wilwyn, Mar 4, 2015.

  1. Wilwyn

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    I started a thread on this topic earlier, but I wanted to redo it with a broader and more piercing emphasis. This is intended as an in-case-of-emergency thread. Read it when you're about to fall. I'm going to present a scenario. You can of course substitute whatever your personal falling-scenario would be if it differs from mine:
    You're in that same situation again. In front of a computer. Filter? Nothing of the sort. Scrolling through a list of nsfw subreddits. Just seconds away from throwing away all that hard work into one image. One moment. Talk to that self as you are now: your sober self dialoging with that just-about-to-fall self. What are you going to to say to convince your about-to-fall self to get the hell out of there?

    Or alternatively, you've just fell and broken your streak. You're body is coursing with all the familiar remorseful emotions and thought processes. Talk to that about-to-fall self as if you're that fallen self. Perhaps, even wait for a fall before writing this response, so it can carry more weight in the future.

    Feel free to post as many different responses to your about-to-fall self as you'd like.
     
  2. There is little that can withstand a man who can conquer himself. – Louis XIV
     
  3. Dante's Shadow

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    Count the Cost!

    Meaning: remember how ashamed, frustrated, and down you ALWAYS feel afterward. Remember how much time you have flushed down the toilet already doing PMO. Think how your loved ones would feel if they knew. What would your boss say? Will you be proud of yourself afterwards? Will you be a better man?
     
  4. Wilwyn

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    "Wilwyn, what in the world are you even looking for in these images? What's in these images that I don't possess right now? In your sober self. Look at how I'm doing right now. I can talk to people freely without fear. I don't feel like looking at the ground wherever I walk. I can look people in the eye. I smile. I say hello. I'm happy. And what are you? Hiding behind a screen. With a hand part way down your pants. What are you looking for in this? What is that image and that dick of yours going to give you? What do they have that I don't have right now? I can guarantee you I am way happier than you are right now. What does it feel like to be staring at some anime woman or gonewild vixen? Are you happy with this? Are you truly, truly happy? I have friends. Where are your friends? Where are those moments, those real moments, with real people, that gave you smiles and made you laugh and felt like there are other people besides me that actually care and want to know me? If you want to fall, go ahead. If you want to "commune" with pixels on a screen, be my guest. But, don't think for a second you will feel better than the way I do right now."
     
  5. OurLiP

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    Remember how you felt horrible every time you relapsed, and promised yourself you'd do better next time? Remember when you were in your darkest hour, and wished that one day you would be the best person on earth, someone who can deal with any challenge?

    That doesn't happen naturally. No supreme figure or society is forcing you to relapse and "hope" for a better chance next time. This IS the next time, so become that person you want to be.

    Distract yourself, watch some movies, read some books, whatever you want. Just don't throw away what you've wanted for so long.
     
  6. Thanatos

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    Whats the point? I know what happens when I PMO, I don't know what happens when I abstain.
    The easy way out will always be there, 5 mins or 5 months... it's always there.
    So I might as well not PMO for 90 days and see what happens.
     
  7. Greek99

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    Why is simple:
    1. When you try to have sex with a real woman, you are going to have problems, maybe severe enough where you ruin your relationship. How are you going to feel when this happens? Trust me, it wont be pretty.
    2. You are wasting your energy.
    3. You may be causing yourself depression issues.
    4. You screw up your real image of sex and love
    5. You take away your confidence by feeling drained all the time
    6. You lower your testosterone levels.

    Many others.

    In short, there is no reason to PMO, it will just screw you up.

    Is this going to be easy? No.



    For fucks sakes, quit it or I am going to come kick your ass! lol ;) :cool:
     
  8. Soul Cage

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    Such a great thread, thankyou for starting this, I'm bookmarking it. Wilwyn your comments in particular were so inspiring for me.

    Why you need to quit......

    You need to give up masturbation just as much as porn....
    ...because just as porn spoils your eyes with unattainable scenarios
    and unattainable characters, masturbation produces an orgasm and a sensual experience of a kind that is impossible to recreate during sex with a partner.

    Start De-programming yourself now....

    ....better late than never.
     
  9. freedbygrace

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    What are you doing man! You don't need to do that! You don't even need to think about doing that! What you do need to think about is how ashamed and guilty you're gonna feel afterwards! Those pictures aren't gonna give you love, or happiness, only shame and guilt! The people in those pics don't even know you! What would your family say if they knew? You've been worried for quite some time now that someone would find out! Think about the girl that you will marry one day, is this being true to her? One day when you have a son, is this something that you would want him to do? Kids learn from example you know! And what's this gonna do to your relationship with God? Yes, God loves you, and yes He'll forgive you, but just put yourself in his shoes for a minute. If you were God, and this guy keeps messing up, and you keep having to save him and forgive him, and you tell him he needs to do better, and he promises to do so, but then just keeps on doing it, how would that make you feel? It's not fare to abuse God's mercy, just cause you know he'll forgive you! God's mercy is not a bandaid that you use when you screw up, to make it all better! You have to mean it in your heart! You can stop this! I know you can! Think of all the kids at church who look up to you, cause they think you're one of the coolest people in the world! You need to put an end to this habit for good, so you can actualy be worthy of that admiration! We got this man! Don't give up and don't give in! You know what you need to do, now do it!
     
  10. Chris1052

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    Thanks everyone. I had some thoughts earlier today like is it really worth it, why am I doing this, PMI felt so good. This thread helped me get my mindset back again. I may not be reaping the benefits that noticeably yet, but I'm gonna trust the many many people on here saying it's well worth it and hang in there. Porn just is not healthy.
     
  11. Earnest Lee

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    Get away from the computer! Now stop thinking about it and close the laptop- look at the time!! You're flirting with disaster here and you know it- time to put all your chips in one basket!
     
  12. Wilwyn

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    Written from the perspective of having come only inches away from a full relapse:

    Wilwyn, I went to that place again. You know. That majority-of-the-time unattended computer at work? You've been there before. And whether you're reading this from that computer or the one in the library or from your iphone or through that loophole in your laptop or wherever, know that I'm thankful right now that I did not fully relapse. It's only been an hour or so, but I feel so much better for it. And I know how many other times I have relapsed, and then that hour afterward was terrible. I felt dead inside. DEAD. Do you want to feel dead? Do you like feeling dead? "But in that moment when I'm just looking at P and M'ing it feels so great! I feel freer and alive! And that dead feeling, well... it, you know, only comes afterwards. I don't really think about it. I don't want to think about it because just look at these women! Look how good M'ing feels!"... It does feel good. You're right. But you're not feeling good enough. Your desire is too weak. Your intensity is ice cold. You don't want to feel good hard enough! You don't want it! And so you want to settle for something that is so much easier by comparison. I've looked into people's eyes, my friend. Their eyes! It's hard to truly look at a person. But, I would do it and do it again and again and again. I feel connected. I feel free. Free to love. To grow in deeper relationship with the people I know. I don't feel afraid. I don't feel the need to turn away. Where do you truly want to go? What do you truly want to want? What is that deepest desire in your heart? Go deep. Go so deep and dark and cold, thousands of miles down from even the faintest atom of light, and stay there. Feel that want intensely. Burn with it. Hunger. Thirst. Want and want and want and want. Flame. And burst. And gush. And agonize. AGONIZE! You want. You truly, truly want. What do you want? What do you want? WHAT DO YOU WANT!??? WHAT IS THE DEEPEST, FUCKING WANT FROM THE VERY DEPTHS OF YOUR HEART???
     
  13. willgrit

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    Fapping is a friggin drug high. It seems like a quick fix to get instant gratification.
    But thats not how real life is.

    If you see a picture of a cheeseburger, can you eat it?
    Then why fap to a picture of a girl you are not having sex with.

    Conserve your man-juice. It will give you confidence, intelligence, and physical strength tomorrow, so you can improve your life. Heck, it will even give you motivation, if you dont want to improve, so your life will magically improve anyway.
     
  14. Anturak

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    Listen.

    You don't want this.

    You don't need this.

    This may seem pleasant right now, but you will hate yourself for it.

    Why would you inflict that kind of pain on yourself?

    I know it's tough right now. I know you want nothing more than to get into familiar territory because the world is too hard and your mind is too racy, but listen just for one second. There is another way. There is another way and it is so so so much more fulfilling than this path will ever even come close to being. There is a path of strength. Of conviction. Of integrity. Of peace and contentment.... of lasting happiness. And it's there, yours for the taking, but listen to me I need you to take 10 deep breaths and recall the beating your fist into the shower after pmo, the regret, the pain, the horrible depressed mood and the disgust you feel with yourself, the shame and the hurt you inflict upon your girlfriend, your friends, your family, your career. It's not worth it. It's not worth it one bit. You know that deep inside, you've just forgotten it. Well here it is. This is the time to break free of this shitty activity. It's time to step into the light. It's time to step into reality. Take 3 more deep breaths, take a step back, turn off your phone or laptop, and go for a walk. You've already made this choice. That is why this is here. Your past self has foreseen this, and left this note for you. Your future self will thank you for it, and be inspired to do the same. It is up to present you to now do its part.
     

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