Masturbation has no "benefits"!.

I agree with Infinite Spirit,we human beings were not made to think in sex,have sex ,lust sex all the time,I mean is an instinct and also we have sexual energy that Is the most strong in us,but our ancestors didnt fapped all day,instead that,they worked and accomplished objetives,instead of draining vital energy.

 

I am pretty sure that after masturbating multi times per week for decades I am overdrawn on the benefits of masturbating. I have found the the benefits of not masturbating to better. Tougher to reach, but better.

 

This entire discussion is quite heated, but I think there are several misconceptions here.

I'll just quote this statement, since it seems to represent the opinion "Masturbation is bad" pretty well, as indicated by the likes from certain forum members.

There are several things, I find very questionable though:

1. From an evolutionary standpoint, that is what humans where built for. To survive and reproduce. Food and sex are the most basic needs we need to satisfy.

2. Obviously, sex isn't masturbating though. However, the wording of your argument is invalid. Noone here talked about "fapping all day". The people, who argued in favor of masturbation, generally speak of a low amount of masturbation. @ConMan for example suggested once a month. That clearly isn't the same as "fapping all day".

3. Also, as @Vandermeer pointed out correctly, it is very much possible to achieve greats success in several areas of life, while you still masturbate from time to time. There is no evidence suggesting the opposite. Only if you mix "masturbating" with "fapping all the time" such an assumption can establish grounds to believe it.

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First of all, your definition of "benefit" is flawed. It's not only a benefit, if it it improves ones health. That would be a "health benefit". But even if we're talking about the more narrow term "health benefit", your statement isn't particularly true:

1. As @ZenAF rightfully pointed out, masturbation helps with prostate health and sperm production. The fact, that potential wet dreams or sex do the same thing, does not change this fact. An apple is still healthy, although a bunch of grapes are healthy as well. These two facts don't contradict each other.

2. That "chill mode" you are talking about can act as a health benefit. It is well-known, that stress can cause disease. Therefore, anything, that reduces the amount of stress, is healthy per definition. If masturbation reduces stress, and stress causes disease, masturbation is in fact healthy.

There is some truth to this argument. Of course, other activities can reduce stress as well, but - again - this doesn't change the fact, that masturbation does it too.

The whole "life force"-part of your argument isn't really up for discussion in my opinion. It's mainly a question of believe and you can't really argue about believes. So, if you want to look at it this way, feel free. But to state it as a fact is somewhat problematic in my eyes.

I doubt, you could fall asleep after castratin yourself. But jokes aside. This last part is ridicouless indeed. You tend to exaggerate tremendously. This doesn't serve a civil discussion.

This is another example of your invalid arguments: You say you speak only from your experience, but then say we all get anxious, have low energy, and low self-esteem after masturbation in your next sentence (just to note: Everytime I talk about masturbation, I'm talking about masturbation to pure sensation. No porn, no Psubs, no fantasy). If you truely want to speak for yourself, then do so! I personally don't feel anxious after masturbation, nor do I have low energy or low self-esteem. I only feel like that after I watch porn. So, your generalization isn't true, at least for some people.

Same applies to this statement: I never feel guilty after masturbation, nor do I consider myself a loser afterwards. You claim to speak for yourself, but then to the opposite. That's just ignorant.

You're going completly off-topic. The discussion is about masturbation, not porn. I think it's safe to say, that we all here agree, that porn isn't benefitial. You keep mixing up two different discussions, although noone ever said such a thing.

The same as yesterday, you start with ad-hominem attacks, which serve no purpose for a discussion. There is no point in this post whatsoever. A person like yourself, who keeps repeating he is respectful at all times and wants others to constantly apologize, should do some self-reflection. You should apologize for saying such nonsense.

Since you don't specify, I assume you watched porn alongside all this time. Can you rule out, that masturbation by itself is truely not benefitial? The comparison between PMO and abstinence is very much different from MO and abstinence.

 

As far as I am informed, junk food every day on the menu card might not be the best choice to keep up the best healthy state of the body, but from time to time it´s not a problem at all. Nevertheless it is still food, right? And food nutures the body with necessary calories and other life essential stuff. So the benefit is: it is able to feed me, if I am hungry. Cannot say anything about Heroin like that, except that one does not need any food at all for a while. Heroin is an illegal drug, food is sold at the supermarket. Nobody needs drugs to survive, but nobody can survive without food.
You get this idea?

It would be very ridiculous, so far we agree in this point. Nearly every teenage boy (and many girls) in the world does masturbate every day at least once, so it would be crazy to assume, that they all were doomed to become crippled "losers" as adults.

I disagree - fun, lust and especially sexual satisfaction are among the strongest motivations for animals and human beings to do and strive for anything at all. It makes the bumble bee going and the juices of life flowing.
If a teenager is not able or even allowed to have real sex with another person, s/he can find at least temporarily relief in masturbation. That´s an enourmous benefit in my opinion and own experience. Without masturbation I would have probably become totally crazy in my early teens, while living in the country and becoming a potential axemurderer. (just kidding, haha)

Having a temporal reduce of stress and sexual satisfaction are no benefits to you? Learning and experiencing how the own body reacts on sexual stimulation is also of no benefit to you at all?

Don´t worry, I won´t explain this to you further, if you are really unable to grasp the idea. Be happy and dwell in your simple natural straightness.

 

Thank you!!! Finally someone with some common sense

 

Masturbation is BAD,it doesnt even worth a single FAP,because it dont have a purpose,its draining vital energy just for 30 minutes of pleasure,and in first hand its not what you really wanted to do (that is have sex),is like wasting blood for fun,MASTURBATION DONT WORTH.

 

Also you here are in a website about leaving vice,and addiction,you find people here,trying to get rid of this addiction,you shouldnt be saying that masturbation "oh its not so bad" when all here are here because it destroyed many lives.

 

I think when masturbation is done in moderation without porn it can be very beneficial. I don't think people who are addicted to porn should masturbate. It can reduce stress/tension, help you sleep and put you in a good mood. So when it is done this way it benefits your mental and physical health. When this is done in moderation there isn't any bad consequences. When your masturbating more than twice a week or so it can become a problem as we all know

 

I copied and posted my first post in this to clear up your confusion

 

Did you even read my post, dude? I'm tired of repeating everything I say, because people like you are either to lazy to read a post or don't get the main ideas in it.

I cleary explained, that masturbation has infact several purposes and I also explained why. I also explained, that the whole concept of "vital energy" or "life force" is a question of believe. Since you can't argue about believes, it's pointless to talk about whether masturbation drains it or not.

This site mainly is about getting rid of porn. And I stated multiple times, that porn obviously is not good. But we're talking about masturbation. Porn is not masturbation, and masturbation is not porn. You can seperate the two from each other.

In addition to that, I never stated, that everybody needs to masturbate, nor did I state, that masturbation is no problem for everyone. What I'm saying is, that masturbation can be fine and potentially even benefitial to some people. But as I mentioned in another thread, masturbation can also be the road to destruction. There is no one-size-fits-all solution. That's were you guys seem to get lost. You seem to believe, everybody is the same and everything affects people the same way. That's ignorant as fuck.

Only a fool will just deny every argument I brought up, without bringing any counter-arguments at all. If I'm wrong like you say, then it should be no problem to prove me wrong. Why don't you answer with arguments instead of staying silent? Is it, because you don't have any arguments?

Wrong. For the reason why it's wrong, see my earlier post.

Speak for yourself. I'm quite convinced by my standpoint, because it makes sense. Your so called "opinion" has no facts to back them up. Thus, it's not convincing at all.

That's so incredibly funny, dude. I'll just quote yourself as an answer. I think you see the irony:

 

Why don't you answer with arguments, dude? It's so pathetic to claim things, you can't proof, and then, when someone points out your bs, you just quit. So sad.

 

This is NOFAP,not NO PORN ,youre the only one that say this site is to recover people just for porn addiction,mmmm also you said that MASTURBATION is beneficial and here everybody wants to get rid of it,its clearly masturbation has no benefits,ITS waste,of life,if you want to relax,drink a tea or something.

 

Masturbation is not even worth.For me this topic has no more discussion.

Yes,he is totally out of frame,he is talking that fapping is beneficial in some people,IN A WEBSITE FULL OF PEOPLE WANTING TO GET RID OF MASTURBATION . He has zero logic

 

Because I'm interested in a civil, fact-based discussion.

No, thanks. I'm good.

If you really believe you could get me stressed, you overestimate your position tremendously. Lol.

It's not for everyone, as I clearly explained above.

There were like 8 people involved in this discussion, 4 of which disagree with you. So if you do the maths, you'll probably notice, that 4/8 ain't "anyone on this site".

Dude, do yourself a favor and go to the main page of Nofap.com and read what is written there:

It can be benefitial. Also, it's simply wrong that everbody wants to get rid of it. Literally 50% in this thread argued in favor of masturbation.

I have to repeat myself. Read my post properly, before you reply.

 

Infinite Spirit you're very impulsive and speak out of anger for some reason because people disagree with you. And it seems like you aren't even reading mine or others comments judging by your barbarian replys lol