Stop blaming porn

It's mixed. Bear in mind that porn (especially in it's modern internet version) cannot have been an issue even a couple of decades ago.
However yes, there is a deeper root.
I hope it's going well on week one.

 

I concede on that!

 

For the drug addict it’s the deeply rooted issues AND the drugs that are the problem. I don’t know how familiar you are with opiate addiction but working on your deeply rooted issues doesn’t negate the physiological effects opiate addiction has done to your brain.

Likewise with the alcoholic. My friend is an alcoholic. Even if he had the mindset you’re talking about, if he removed himself from alcohol via cold turkey he could die. He needs to go to a professional medical facility if he’s going to start his recovery journey.

The irony here is you’re practicing the same mentality as the people you have a problem with except you’re reversing the blame. The reason why both sides get traction is because they’re both filled with partial truth.

 

Oh we should also mention genetics and upbringing. Some people are more susceptible to some things as a result.

 

That too!

 

The legalization of a drug does not remove the addiction component. Of course a country isn’t going to say it has a “drug problem” if drugs are not viewed as a problem.

 

One thing I would add is that I'm not sure there is a simple, binary answer. The tricky bit is to simply find out what works for the individual.
Maybe it's a bit like medical drugs for different populations in that often they need somewhat differing approaches.

 

Let’s take Switzerland; their solution to their drug epidemic was to not criminalize the addict but rather make therapy more accessible to addicts. They prescribe most with methadone while other hardcore addicts they prescribe them actual heroine in safer doses. While this has helped with their addiction problems as a whole in terms of overdoses, it doesn’t really support your position that the substances themselves are not part of the problem in an addicts life.

 

if watching a porn to masturbate becomes a habit, something is wrong.
especially when you start having strange tastes.
I speak from personal experience.

 

Hope this doesn't descend into an argument. You both make insightful points. So do I probably!
I reiterate: there probably isn't one solution, but some things will work better than others. I know-vague.
I need to learn what works for me.

 

Not worried with the finer details or Politics for a sec, I agree rebooting is useless without taking responsibility. I don’t really have any issue with what you describe in the spirit of recovery.

I think people use porn to hide from life. And to kick porn out we use life. Take it one day at a time. Congrats on starting your journey. Welcome bud.

 

I don’t think it will descend into argument. For me I don’t think it’s as black and white as “it’s all your mindsets fault” or “it’s all porns fault”. Decriminalizing a substance doesn’t change it’s addictive effects. If it did then there wouldn’t be a porn addiction issue since porn isn’t something that’s criminalized right now in many society’s in the first place.