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Almost a year, no concrete advantages, i think nofap is placebo...

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by arkad1, Apr 16, 2019.

  1. Younameit

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    bro.. spare us of your stupidity, nofap is about not being addicted to pixels on a screen. if you jerk off 3 times a day everyday with 40 tabs of porn open, bouncing between them and watching it for hours, over time you'll get screwed, I guarantee you that. Nofap is about, first and foremost, remove, get rid of porn utterly, this shit is dangerous and it can cause a lot of problems, most of them people don't udnerstand 100%
    this is what nofap is about, porn is the true enemy, the actual danger. If you still want to jerk off without porn, there's no problem, many here do this, it's not advisable because it could escalate to porn, but if you're self aware enough you can pull that off. so yeah, it's no placebo, manu guys suffered from anhedonia, PIED, anxiety, depression, desensitivity and many other symptons, and once they cut porn they felt much better
     
  2. Younameit

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    that's exactly what happened to me in the beginning, porn only once in a while, but after 1 or 2 years, I escalated to watching it everyday for hours
    PMO=drug
     
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  3. arkad1

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    You don't understand a word i wrote, you are ckearly in an anxious state where you can't keep calm and even understand things, and you didn't spare us your stupidity.

    But thanks anyway for your contribution.
     
  4. Majik

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    Wow, read the first page of this, then saw the thread was 14 pages long! It is very valiant of you guys to keep arguing with this guy, but you are clearly wasting your time! Think of all the better things that you could be doing!
     
  5. Younameit

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    cool, stick to fapping off to porn everyday for hours then if you think nofap is "placebo"
     
  6. Infinite spirit

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    Anyone who still arguing with him is a dumbass
     
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  7. irock

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    Hi there, I didn't wanted to reply to your thread when you called nofap a placebo because it doesn't work for everyone, just like dieting or working out. Also I probably would've said all that IR254 said. But, you went a little little of line with that Bullshit butt pinch example . If you're regularly fapping to porn, why the fuck would you make so much effort reading self help books and applying them in your real life ? Why would you go an extra mile when you can barely keep up with you current schedule. Not only that, nofap alone helped me felt so good(after some withdrawals) that I can see the changes in myself, others can see the changes in me. Not just that, I have that drive to do things when I'm not flatlining. So definitely not a placebo for me and for almost half a million people on reddit. So, unless that "butt pinch" gave you some drive and motivation and free time to read books or do something productive I'm afraid you won't be reading em books with your swollen butt! . I really thought you were genuine but when I read your response to how you handled positive criticism from IR254, I really thought you didn't wanted to gave nofap a shot or literally want all of us to think it won't work because apparently it's not working for you (which I highly doubt you did it in the first place). Anyways have a good day, and understand that it's working for almost all of us(definitely working for me at least) . I always journal my nofap and days after the withdrawals are the best days of my streak.
     
  8. SpringWater

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    This is the longest thread..and how did I get sucked into it?

    You quit porn and all that stuff because it’s bad for you( like junk food) and overtime hurts you( like junk food makes us fat and unhealthy).

    You don’t stop to get better in bed..ugh

    That means all guys that do not watch porn, ever, are great in bed. I doubt it.

    Girls aren’t more attractive to you..again go to above example.

    But you do feel better and gain more self control, now that does translate to positive things.

    You do have a more clear head. Again so you can make better choices on life.

    We stop porn because we become addicted..if you never got hooked then you prob won’t see much change when you stop watching it.

    But if you did, then you will.

    How did I get sucked into this? Ha
     
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  9. llortaton

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    My Journal
    I just did 5 days, and I already felt a huge decrease in the social anxiety. My right nostril also got smaller. (Because after I started excessive masturbation, my right nostril got a little bigger than the left)
     
  10. arkad1

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    And still, you're wasting your time here, there's something you must like in this thread.
     
  11. arkad1

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    If you doubt i haven't done nofap you either shouldn't be answering here or preparing to be deluded in the future.
     
  12. arkad1

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    I still don't get why people here behave like religious integrakists, it's almost crazy how people get personally offended when you say nofap don't work.

    The advantages of nofap are way lower than what all people, youtubers and ybop promote, and they promote a little of real thing and a lot of bullshitt.

    Don't get thet the stupid answer like "so go to masturbate to porn" which are clearly answers frome unstable people that didn't get the advantages nofap primised them, otherwise they wouldn't be triggered as a religious integralist when you talk about theyr god.

    Honestly, i think this comunity is mostly made of young kids, and it was an error from my side to try get something out of this in here.

    People who think i lie are even crazier, that doesn't maje any sense, you think i lie because i'm sent by the devil? Wtf, use your brains...
     
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  13. SpringWater

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    I’m not understanding why you have so much anger?

    Are you mad that you gave up masterbating go porn for a while?

    Do you feel you missed out on some great videos to whack it to?

    Porn is bad..no doubt about it. Just like alcohol is bad. Some people can handle a little of either, some can’t. Those of us here can’t.

    But that doesn’t mean those that can handle some poem still don’t have “side effects” from watching it on a regular basis.

    You are conditioning yourself to look at women differently.

    You are thinking of sex as pleasure and not a form of giving and building compassion with another person.

    To be a “better person” you have to give up things that aren’t serving you, and add habits that will.

    Just giving up porn won’t make you some hot charismatic dude.

    If you really want people to be drawn to you..focus on building compassion and generosity to others.

    Make your life about service to others.

    And hit the gym :)
     
  14. Younameit

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    "The advantages of nofap are way lower than what all people, youtubers and ybop promote, and they promote a little of real thing and a lot of bullshitt."
    Wrong! it's all relative, if you hit rock bottom because of porn, when you quit for 3 months you will feel a massive difference, if you're not that addicted to it, there won't be any major benefits.
    I'm not anti masturbation, it's pretty safe and healthy to jerk off every once in a while like once a week, the problem was PMO and its frequency, I watched that shit for years every day for hours, of course I hit rock bottom and had to stop
     
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  15. arkad1

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    I don't have much anger, the fact is that many religuous integralists like people here gets mad just for me telling my experience, they told me i'm lying, they told i haven't done nofap, this alone tells me what kind of people i'm talking to ;)

    I don't think you read any of the posts on this thread.
     
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  16. Younameit

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  17. arkad1

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    You think that someone who stayed in hardmode for 6 months and not using porn for other 5 has never seen that video?

    I've seen thousand of videos, read the whole ybop site many times, read all the chinese bla bla on nofap, watherwer, i read it...

    I don't think you even remotely grasp anything of this thread...
     
  18. Fenix Rising

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    As someone with 2 decades long addiction to daily compulsive binge MO and PMO and seriously fighting it for 5 and not so seriously for 8 years, I can only give my empirical observations on no PMO mostly in monk mode (no sexual activity whatsoever):

    Positives:
    - heals PIED problems
    - improves libido
    - elevates numbness (logical consequence of not drowning your brains in the neuropeptides oxytocin (OXT )and arginine vasopressin (VAS) on daily basis)
    - elevates brain fog
    - improves ones energy levels (draining your balls multiple times a day isn't good energy preservation tactics)
    - trains will power

    Neutrals:
    - doesn't cure anxiety
    - doesn't cure depression

    Negatives (under assumption you do nothing else to improve your well being except abstention):
    - anxiety levels explode (removed anxiolytic and antidepressive effects of OXT and VAS)
    - depression episodes become more severe (again no more OXT and VAS to numb your emotions)
    - mood swings (dopamine overshooting and undershooting baseline level during fluctuation)
    - insomnia (anxiety isn't beneficial for sleeping)

    That being said, for me no PMO and especially "hardmode" is well worth it. Elevated energy levels and spare time can be used to make radical lifestyle changes which will positively affect anxiety, depression, self-esteem, physical condition and make you mentally more stable person. So abstention with lifestyle change is a WIN WIN combination. I wouldn't have energy/will power do changes without abstention and I couldn't abstain without radically changing the way I live.
     
  19. Younameit

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    yes of course, that's it, nothing else to it
    the science supporting the harmful effects of porn are undeniable, I'm talking about PMO here. not masturbation alone
     
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  20. arkad1

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    You still didn't read the thread, what i wrote, but you came out offending me, like the good religious integralist you are.

    Wow, nofap must have made you very calm and smart.
     
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