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Addiction is not your problem

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Di.Do.555, Jul 27, 2019.

  1. Yeah I 100% agree man, my apologies I got a little triggered. My dad has bipolar and well yeah I suffer with adhd. I should of worded it more friendly. I’m normally pretty good I just got triggered bad. I’ll edit it. Thanks mate
     
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  2. You're a good man! Thank you!
     
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  3. That reply is so fucking good! I love it!!!
    You know, didodido, you stole the title of the thread I wanted to post here, but I stole the conversation (for just a day:)
    Damn, I should hand out with people like you!
     
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  4. Di.Do.555

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    :) i am learning a lot from you mate.
    Thanks - Greetings from the land down under.
     
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    This is all me
     
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    Don't twist the things he said, mate. He said he had no previous issues, which means he only started developing problems after he used porn.

    When did I say, that I was talking about guys like Charlie Sheen? That guy is a complete and utter mess, so I would not consider him highly functioning at all. I mean, he was fired from one of the biggest TV shows because of his behavior, so what's the point?

    Feel free to believe what you find right. No point in discussing this, since there is no way of finding a real answer. You'll always just accuse anybody, who says otherwise of not being aware enough and such. I have no interest in such a conversation.
     
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    Lol i'm not married, I never said I was. I am 22 y/o and just graduated.

    I also quit porn before I turned 22. since turning 22 earlier this month I haven't PMOd, search for anything to do with porn, given into any single 'urge'. I am completely clean. It's only been about a month now but I am no longer addicted. I feel much more in control. I honestly don't have any underlying issues that I am aware of. Maybe my lifestyle in the past year has been pretty boring and unfulfilling, but that will change soon.
     
  8. bigboibez

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    I know. but what im trying to say is people in hospitals get addicted to opioids because of an injury, rather than because they have some serious underlying issues. if you start doing something because you're wilfully blind, and lack education, it is possible to get addicted for anyone. yes it is more likely for people with underlying issues to get addicted, but it is possible for anyone.
     
  9. IR254

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    Although I generally get what you're saying, maybe you shouldn't call others "pathetic" or "weak" if you don't want to piss them off. I know, that being offensive is not you're interest and I didn't take offense, but nevertheless it's not really productive to get on such a level. But let's adress your points about the topic:

    I've been meditating basically every day for almost a year, mate.

    Your argument is based on the premise, that people who say their problems do not origin from preexisting problems are just not aware of such preexisting conditions or lie to themselves. I don't think this is always right. Of course there are people, who do have problems and just don't see them. But there are also people, who do not. They develope their problems as a consequence of their use alone, not the other way around. And although there is a lot of trauma in a lot of addicts, doesn't mean that it's necessary in order to become an addict. The chemical reactions that follow certain behaviors can be more than enough to change the brain structure, without any trauma needed. That doesn't mean, that trauma has no influence. It only means there a multiple ways of becoming addicted. They can occur simultaniously or on their own. That's all I'm saying.

    So, if you want to continue to accuse everybody and anybody, who states he or she had no issues before using, of being unaware or lying, then there is no point in continuing this conversation.
     
  10. IR254

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    That I don't like when people throw insults at each other? Are you seriously suggesting that people, who like a civilized debate better than a debate filled with name calling, have issues? If so, you might be the one with an issue my friend.

    Not necessarily, no. Missing information can simply be the reason.

    You're absolutely misrepresenting my point. I did not once say I have no problems. Of course I do, otherwise I wouldn't be here. I said, I had no problems before I used porn. That's a very important difference.

    That's what I meant. I don't share your opinion, and therefore you call me not conscious. It doesn't matter what I say, you'll just keep calling me that. That's not a good foundation for a civil discussion. So, if you change your attitude in this regard, I'm more than happy to discuss with you. Otherwise I'll have to end this discussion.
     
  11. DeepParkWater

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    I feel like both can be true at the same time. A teenager jerking off can be pretty normal but a healthy one doesnt rely on it constantly. Subconsciously there has to be a reason why you choose one thing over another. Insecurities trauma heartbreak whatever it is i agree you can start using P harmlessly but it only becomes an addiction until you use it to cope with an underlying cause
     
  12. This thread nails it. I agree there can exist chemical and biological elements that predispose us to addictions (happens all the time in families with alcoholics and generational addiction) which dr.mate references.

    But embedded in this thread is the basic tenant of empowerment. Addictions when misunderstood can prolong suffering by denying the patient the right to become empowered and make changes for himself.

    I have learned a lot by choosing. Not all at once but it’s far more effective than just letting the “disease -attitude “ pull you through the pain and not have a way to confront it.
     
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  13. Guys, there's one video that I highly, highly, highly recommend you watch - it's 45 minutes purge gold and it perfectly matches the topics we've been discussing so far. Enjoy:


    p.s. Don't judge by the title, because there's so much more in the video, as you will find out if you watch it till the end.
     
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