Is Masterbation without porn okay?

What are your goals? Fastest way would most likely be no PMO. Just O without the PM would work too itd be slower but it would reset your brain just slower. Thr thing you habe to worry about though is what are you thinking about to get off then. Because thats another thing you should worry about. I read someone comment once that P is the poison MO send that shit to your heart. If you use that hot girl you work with as inspiration that would probily fuck with your head. Just some food for thought

 

Why do you want to masturbate? The urges will be there again a few days later. Any addicition?
I consider your question as expression of addiction. Resist the urges and everything will be fine.
There is no need for M. Mind tells you "fap now and you will be happy". Maybe you fap and mind will tell you . "You crazy guy, why did you stop your wonderful NO PMO journey?"

Stay strong!

 

Needs to be released? Not really. That is what mind tells you.
I had two 6-months-NO PMO-streaks in my life and it was a wonderful time.

 

By chronic illness do you mean Anxiety , depression , wet dreams , lack of concentration etc

 

i am experincing some of those too . even i do masturbate without porn but the affect is still same. More we masturbate more health issue occurs

 

I am not porn addicted, I guess I am just M addicted. I enjoy periods of celibacy and sometimes I enjoy periods of daily masturbation. Thanks God I feel healthy all the time. Only if I feel really sick I have no urges for M or O.
I think M can be a wonderful experience- if you are not addicted to anything. If time wasting is the only sin then M and O might be time wasting but often they are not. They are a wonderful aspect of my life.

 

For me after starting NoFap there's a stupid battle going on in my mind. Like my brain trying to tell me "hey dude, you need to masturbate or else." next day; "hey man, it's been a while and we really need to do this.."

You know the thing is, you can survive indefinite periods without masturbation or even orgasming. It's not like you're going to die when you don't do it, it's your brain tricking you into dopamine release. Do you know how fast work-weeks go? Or how often we say "geez, it's august already the year flew by".. Do you know how contradicting it is when your brain says: YO BRO.. ITS BEEN TEN DAYS WITHOUT YOU TOUCHING YOUR WEENER. WHAT ARE YOU DOING?! ITS BUILDING UP MAN..WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN IF WE DONT.. ITS GOING TO BE A FLOODGATE, TSUNAMI, WE NEED TO BUILD A DAMN ARK IF WE DONT DO THIS.."

This reaction is crazy severe compared to the circumstances and the timeframe and it tells me that I absolutely need to rewire my brain. I don't want this type of reaction in my mind, it clogs and takes space of other thought processes and reflections which are ultimately more important and more nurturing of my self.

 

I’m over 50 days in and have really lost my cravings for masturbation and porn

 

I don't believe in those benefits for me those are lie if you are going to believe in those and carry on doing masturbation then you will never succeed in overcoming porn addiction. It is impossible to break porn addiction without giving up masturbation

 

May be you are right but what I said is what I experienced in my life. Can I have a question?
Don't you feel any guiltiness after you masturbate?

 

I did believe for a while masturbation without porn was OK. Unfortunately it led me back to porn eventually. The problem was, I could masturbate once every fortnight for a while but eventually I convinced myself I could masturbate more often than. As a result of this, my willpower was weakened which led me back to porn. I think if you are fighting porn addiction masturbation is bad and should be avoided.

 

Personally masturbation brings me out in cystic acne, I think. Leaves me in a bit of a slump for a day or two as well. I cant comment what it does in terms of recovering from weak erections or libido. But I'd stay away from it or really limit it if you have to.

 

Masturbation is shit. Fuck it.

 

Depends on the circumstances. When giving a commitment for a special durance (actually I want to reach 36 days NO PMO) and I relapse, I am disappointed.

When I am out of any commitment, I often feel great after M.
I like myself and I have to find out what is fitting to me. Feeling guilty seems to be a religious pattern. In my country M is legal, so there can only be a religious guilt. You think there is an old man high up in the sky permanently watching me? No - I have to find my own way. Sometimes it is perfect not to masturbate for weeks or months, sometimes it is perfect to masturbate 1 or 2 times per week. And I am very grateful not to be porn addicted.