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Leaving the Hive

Discussion in 'Significant Other Journals' started by Queenie%Bee, Sep 24, 2018.

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  1. fuzzywaz

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    Sorry didn't mean "you shouldn't feel that way" - your feelings are valid. I can relate to feeling guilt around all sorts of aspects of the dynamic. It just sucks because here we are still thinking of them, out of love, and their actions speak of a total disregard for us and our feelings :(
     
  2. Queenie%Bee

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    It’s ok I understood what you meant ! My therapist was wondering what my reaction would be if in 30 days he says “ I’m paying all the bills and working 60 hours a week I don’t want to sleep in the couch anymore “

    I don’t even know what my reaction would be . The thing is is so hot upstairs both my husband and my oldest have been sleeping on the couch lol .
     
  3. Lostneverland

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    I think you’re doing great . Just go easy on yourself...life through curveballs , so try not to be concerned about how things will or won’t turn out!
    My relationship has done a complete 1280 degree turn...that’s a 360 turn 4 times over.
    Please be good to you , take one moment and one day at a time.
    Decide what is good for you and do only that...unless there is something you want to do for someone else...
    Prayers and good wishes coming your way.
     
  4. LuxPerpetua

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    You're so kind @Queenie%Bee Your husband has deceived you and thrown all this crap at you and you feel like you owe him something :( You don't owe him anything, its time for him to reap the bitter fruit he has sadly chosen over and over to sow. It might even be what he needs, it might help him to learn. I'm so sorry things are so hard for you :( I hope they get better soon
     
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  5. Queenie%Bee

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    Self doubt is a real bitch . This ebb and flow is maddening. I sat frozen today . Idle . It’s not a good space for me . My mind just races , The “ in love “ brain starts telling myself “ This isn’t so bad , it’s P once in awhile , I’m throwing 23 years away “ but THEN the logical part of my brain tells me everything that is true “ he has betrayed you , he has lied to you , he is in denial thinking he does not have this addiction anymore , he is no longer a stranger in your home , he’s “SHADOW MAN “ , like he’s there but not , present but not , his D is there but not , SHADOW MAN showed up months ago “
    Why must I love him so . Why do I have to be so kind . Why can’t he just wake up . WHY DO I THINK I COULD LIVE WITH A LIL P . We rationalize and minimize it ourselves , we see the GOOD , he’s kind , loving , a good dad , a good provider , handsome , doesn’t raise his voice ever , told me I’m beautiful every day . Holds doors , holds my hand everywhere . My marriage IS real . All that was REAL . But I ALSO have porn addiction in my marriage , with THIS comes , LYING , GASLIGHTING, STONEWALLING, DEFLECTING, MINIMIZING, JUSTIFYING. SEXUAL INTIMACY issue , EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE AND MATURITY issues
    All THAT taints EVERYTHING else .
    FFS this teeter totter brain just WILL NOT STOP . Yes I know my worth , I know what I deserve . I don’t deserve the latter .
     
  6. fuzzywaz

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    Ugh this is me somedays. The last thing I want to have to do is throw away our lives together, and for this?! It really would be such a waste. But then I remember how bad things were right before the original DDay. And how I could see that if this recent stint had continued, we'd be headed right back to that place. It would be a gd shame to throw our family away over porn, but it would ultimately be his choice. I won't play second fiddle to it in my own marriage :(
     
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  7. Queenie%Bee

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    Agreed , however, I believe the choice is OURS . The choices we make to put up with what we do and for how long we do . Those are OUR choices . The only choice HE has is to be in active recovery. Then wouldn’t life just be a splendor lol
     
  8. Queenie%Bee

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    And so it’s Friday night . He goes to see his mom at nursing home ( major stroke 11/16 ) Something we have done every Tuesday and Friday night for almost 3 years . I haven’t seen her in almost 2 months :(
    I asked how she was . He seemed surprised I would ask . Of course I would ask , I love her and miss her . She was very manic tonight . I’m sad . I said I was sorry he had a rough visit ( I’ve witnessed it ) . I know he probably needed a hug . THAT MY FRIENDS IS EMPATHY ( something he is very much so lacking )
    No i won’t do that . I’m detaching without love . I need to go see his mom . Alone . I haven’t because I’m so afraid i will become emotional if she brings him up a lot . Ugh
     
  9. Queenie%Bee

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    ‍♀️‍♀️:emoji_confounded::emoji_confounded:I AM PROCESSING. Having nothing to do with me he’s ordered 2 books and brought the laptop to the dump . He invited me to come a long . I said I didn’t care what he did , but I went . I explained it takes 15 minutes and $159 to buy another but commended him for that first step . A lot of conversation happened over the last week . Nothing is changing in my heart , my head or our house situation. But I AM watching his feet not his lips . He is for the first time doing things on his own for himself. He asked if he could try to repair. I didn’t say yes and I didn’t say no . I said let’s leave it how things are . He tried to give me his new email password. I said NO I DONT WANT IT . I don’t want to be tempted to check . I want NOTHING to do with his recovery/self improvement. He has not come out and said he was “ addicted “ again , but was in a deep depression. I believe it was both . He suffers from anxiety and depression, is a bad food junkie now working on himself physically and mentally. Good for him . I’m continuing therapy and Sanon . He’s asking if he could have time to show me . I said I figured you’d be here through the winter anyways . The house needs work . I am still detached , I feel no romantic connection to him right now , for me that is a positive. Yes I love him . But I’m not going to spend my time loving him if that makes sense . I am putting myself and my recovery first for the first time . Every other time I had to push things along . I sought out his physical contact. I. AM. DIFFERENT.
     
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  10. Queenie%Bee

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    THINGS. ARE. WEIRD.
    Since Saturday I’m having that psoriasis on my eyebrow. I think it’s WORRY /FEAR that causes it ! It’s been GONE since I found the laptop in June . I stopped worrying about what he was doing then . Now my worry is more contemplation of can I even do this . Do I even want to do this . FFS
     
  11. Kizd4AFool

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    Exactly! Which is why I've been feeling less supportive now and enacting stricter boundaries after 17 years of torture. Porn is not a chemical dependency like alcohol and drugs and they can overcome their compulsion to it by working on it but my husband chooses not to work for longer than a short time. He doesn't want to heal and meanwhile I feel like I have been hit by a bus and run over again and again. Your journal has spoken to me and I see myself at the 20+ year mark in the same place as you are which is heartbreaking. I haven't made my decisions yet...but I am numb and hate him. He has destroyed my self esteem completely. No sex in over a year at this point and I feel completely unwanted yet still have a sex drive (why do our bodies betray us?).
     
  12. Kizd4AFool

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    This spoke to me and almost made be break out into sobbing tears. So true! While I desire sex and desire the real man inside the jerk sleeping next to me he can't function (PIED/AIED) and even if he could I know without a doubt I'd be a blow up doll porn substitute. I can't remember the last time sex was even decent.

    Feeling this 100%...hate lying and can't stand it anymore. You make a very good point.
     
  13. Kizd4AFool

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    Addicts always focus on the golden threads...want them to outweigh the bad things they've done. Husband told me last night that I should remember the good times...but they are overcome with the negatives.
     
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  14. Real Roboin

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    Hows it going?
     
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  15. Queenie%Bee

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    Buzz buzz effers .
    I took a long break from NOFAP . It was triggering for me during reconciliation.
    I can say that I am still married . Sometimes deeply in love , sometimes not . I can say 2 1/2 years have gone by so fast but also slow in the way of my recovery. From what I do know he has been sober since Aug 19 . I also the little desire and initiating is not at the forefront for him . I don’t ask for a lot but these things are so important given everything I’ve been thru as an SO . I would simply say for me , once during week and once on weekends I am content with . I could use more but i would settle for twice . This has still been a constant struggle . The only conflict . I’ve dug deep to figure out the WHY it affects me . I feel so much more connected , safe ,less triggered . During the week life gets busy so I like mid week to reconnect physically and emotionally and We bond for days and things are light , he’s light ,, more touching etc then on the wknd to end it bonded . When we skip mid week ( sex has always always been on his terms ) I feel rejected , unsafe etc . It’s like on those weeks I could easily be a pillow on the couch and my feelings get hurt . We’ll normally it takes a bit and the convo happens . Only twice in 2 years had it caused an argument. It’s always ILL try and he will for a few weeks then we are right back to once a week , on Sundays . We’ll this time it caused a BIG one . And he said some hurtful things starting Fri , then acted like nothing happened so I bring it up to resolve on Sat and again said my expectations of him are too high ( absolutely not the fucking case . Convo ended like that . Sun acted like nothing happened then we talked in the car , this dummy said to me “ you want to live in a fairytale “ I’m gobsmacked at this . Believe me mother fucker this 25 years was never a fairytale. That convo ended . Well it escalated last night , It reminded me of his personality when he was deep in addiction the defensiveness he arrogant condescending cocky person that I’m not married to. So again conversation ended good morning beautiful text this morning like nothing happened so tonight we went round and round and round again . My first love language is physical touch his is acts of service and I fill all of those needs . The convo ended with “ Ill work on it “ his go to . But he never actively works on it to be consistent so I get whiplash. I guess I’m just feeling lost, angry and seriously REGRETTING staying . This could be a fleeting fight but I had to get this hate moth the fuck out of my body . ♥️
     
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  16. Psalm27:1my light

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    Do you know if your husband has IA? Intimacy Anorexia? For the first year of recovery things really changed with my husband, he still slipped/relapsed but he was honest about it. Then a year in he lied and had a major relapse. That was 2 years ago. When that happened, he really made a turn, a change in heart. He discovered he had IA-this was a changing point. Up until then he pretty much avoided sex because it was too intimate. Once he began work on his IA as well as his pa everything changed. Our entire life changed. Our relationship changed. Sex is completely different, he is completely different. I’m different lol. We now both agree that his IA was more damaging than his PA! About 30% of sex addicts have IA.
     
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  17. onceaking

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    Good to see you back. On my old account, we had some interaction with each other. Sorry things haven't improved in your marriage.
     
  18. Queenie%Bee

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    What was your name before ???
     
  19. onceaking

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    I think it was Surfing the Waves or Rio.

    I remember us talking about this song:

     
  20. Queenie%Bee

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    OMFG yesssss
     
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