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Re-booters in the UK - cultural attitudes making Nofap recovery difficult?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Dave G 123, Aug 8, 2019.

  1. Dave G 123

    Dave G 123 Fapstronaut

    Hi,

    I'm based in the UK. I've recently tried reaching out to a few friends about my problem, and had a bad time of it. This site is predominantly U.S. (North American - not to forget Canada!), and the impression that I get is that most US based members generally manage to find someone to open up to. So, for anyone that is interested, a few questions:

    Do you think that my impression that U.S. Nofappers have an OK time in this respect is realistic, or not?

    What are the experiences of UK based Nofappers? Any particular stories about good / bad experiences?

    I don't want to leave out other countries / languages, but I have interacted with U.S. based Nofappers and found that they generally seem to be a lot more up-beat, optimistic and "can-do" than the Brits, and a lot less cynical too. Also, most of the work being done to support Nofap is coming from the US - ie communities like this, YouTube videos etc, but I've come across very little from UK based people.

    To put this in perspective, I've not found anyone in the UK who doesn't assume, when I've tried to talk about the problem, that I've become religious (I'm not) or am being very moralistic. This includes friends that have known me for 30 years, who really should know me better. This problem is impacting my ability to maintain a recovery, but I thought this might be an opportunity to talk to other Brits about this and see if this is a common experience, or just my bad luck!?
     
  2. Yeah all my friends (male ones) have either mocked, disagreed with or been bemused about me trying this thing. Women seem to be more ok with it.
     
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  3. I've spoke to three people about it and they all realise it's a big issue. Infact I opened up to one of them years prior and he was adamant it was a load of crap. Yet, years later when he was struggling to achieve an erection with his girlfriend it opened his mind.
     
  4. I'm from the UK, I've never spoken to anyone I know about NoFap and doubt I will.
     
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  5. When people criticise, I sometimes ask them to show me their search history. They don't.
     
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  6. Indurian

    Indurian Fapstronaut

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    I've mentioned nofap to a few friends but they just look bemused. Porn in UK society is seen as a matcho thing, usually shared between WhatsApp groups.

    I've had guys in work joke about porn use, implying that it's almost sacred to them, and that they will never give it up.

    I think the reality is that they don't know the mental, physical and spiritual impact it is having on them. Not a clue.
     
  7. Agreed. Plus, I understand your username.
     
  8. 3nigma

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    I'm from the US. I finally got the opportunity to share the site with someone within the last week. Considering I've been a member for over 2 years that's saying something. Nofap has been my secret for the past 2+ years.
     
  9. It kind of takes balls to tell people...
     
  10. Dave G 123

    Dave G 123 Fapstronaut

    How did it go? What kind of reaction did you get?
     
  11. Dave G 123

    Dave G 123 Fapstronaut

    That's pretty much my experience. It's depressing.

    BTW, I also get the username!
     
  12. hairlesschewbacca

    hairlesschewbacca Fapstronaut

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    Yeah I don’t think it’s all that different for us in the US.

    If you really need to talk about it I would suggest a thearpist. Yeah it kinda sucks you have to pay for it but they aren’t judging and will give you better advice and support than your buddies down at the pub, watching the football match.
     
  13. MuzzyTheArab

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    Its hard for me to gauge, but I think the United States has a higher concentration of Judaeo-Christian ethics with the people and that makes it easier to find support. Maybe that's pretentious of me to say, but I think that's what it is.
     
  14. keepitreal-88

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    It doesn't seem like there's much point telling other people about this, most people you'll meet in day to day life just aren't going to understand, they probably don't even see their porn use as a problem or wouldn't want to face that this a problem for them too. People are raised these days to view masturbation as healthy, and in some ways it can be, especially when your going through puberty and learning about yourself. Unfortunately porn is so commonplace that its seen as normal thing to watch and if you're trying to convince people with words then you're most likely going to get mocked. Better off letting your actions and results speak for themselves and let people find out about it rather than preaching or trying to make people understand.

    I think many of us have a problem with seeking to be understood, and why not, it feels gratifying to have someone agree with us or to "get" us, but this is needy behaviour. Actions speak louder than words, get on with your life, evolve, seek to understand other people instead of being understood, then they'll want you to like them, let your actions make them wonder how you're doing so well, and then if they ask, they'll be willing to listen, and now they might be ready to understand.

    Don't worry that the people in your everyday life can't relate to this area of yours, you're blessed to have a fantastic community here that can.
     
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2019
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  15. Dave G 123

    Dave G 123 Fapstronaut

    Hi,

    I do agree with the idea of letting actions speak for themselves, but the problem that brought me here recently has been trying to find someone to act as a Covenant Eyes ally - and no-one I know will do it, because no-one takes the issue seriously.

    I have talked to a therapist about things in the past, but I ran in to the brick-wall of "porn can't do you any harm" delivered in a patronizing (and therefore judgemental) way, again and again. So because of this and other experiences, I gave up on the idea some time ago of getting professional help. I've realised I'm pretty much on my own IRL - so I definitely appreciate this community, because it has given me some much needed perspective and inspiration, as well as helpful, practical information.

    Good luck to everyone, wherever you are.

    PS - Muzzy - I don't think it's pretentious - you might be right!
     
  16. Perhaps a therapist specialising in sexual matters might help...
     
  17. 3nigma

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    Well, it went okay. He brought up the subject by saying he thinks he's addicted to pornography. I just told him to check out the site and gave him the URL. I don't think he followed up though but I'm not gonna bring it up.
     
  18. Grey is colourless

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    Yes! Widespread in UK. Funny these Brits are famous for the wanker jokes - beer is for wankers!

    I will become a little lunatic and go into conspiracy territory - London is said to be the pedophile capital of the world... Lot's of creeps down there at the bottom of the map. And they have connections around the country. Once, young in my 20s, an old man, in London, asked me if I want him to wank me. I was chilling in a park , you know they have huge parks there, as does the rest of the city, it was a somewhat isolated area. He was old, in an auto wheelchair. Really creepy dude. Made the sign as if holding testicles in hand when he asked me.
     
  19. Ha I think paedophilia may be hugely more prevalent in other parts of the world. Child brides, etc...
     
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  20. Grey is colourless

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    Oh yh! Ive seen the afganistan documentary and that mexico wedding viral post. I think the rumour refers to more organised crime though, kidnappings...
     

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