Are you aloud to look at porn substitutes as long as your not masturbating?

So, I'm apparently addicted to P/sub. I don't like the "normal" stuff. You don't want to hitch a ride on this struggle bus.

Best to reconnect with your partner if you have one or trade this for healthier habits like study, working out, or a different hobby, at least until you get control over your life.

 

No.

If youre on the internet and something pops up which you didn't go searching for, then simply close it and move on. no harm done.
If you go searching for something, it is not a relapse, but it will increase the chance you relapse. ultimately the goal is to quit PMO, so why make it harder for yourself?

People always seem to ask these questions, 'can I use p-subs' or 'I search for this every day' when they know they are deluding themselves. yes it is easier than staying completely abstinent but it will make it much harder to reach the goal of fully quitting. any artificial stimulation is going to at the best, not help, and at the worst, lead to binging, so why even bother?

But, as I have already eluded to, this is a journey, not a hiscores contest. If you do relapse, or peek, pick yourself up and brush yourself off and keep going. If you peek, or even relapse, the absolute worst thing you can do is beat yourself to a pulp and binge. The idea isn't to get to a certain number of days, it is rather to design a lifestyle and move past PMOing for good.

 

Masturbation is not ok in any shape or form

 

@Bigwanker

Two separate things here:

On the only exception that you would like to become a monk and retire to a monastery, yes, you can look at women, either online or in real Life. This is not a relapse. But as you said, if you masturbate or fantasize and have an orgasm doing it, this is considered a relapse.

The reason why the others advice you to not do it, it is because it can trigger very quickly an urge to go to PMO. The porn and social media industry use very similar codes to get us addicted.

Bottom line is: you can look at girls, but by doing so, you increase your risk of relapsing or not attain your goals. So it is up to you to draw the line.

Stay strong and stay happy!

 

lmfao stop searching a way out ....
girl naked or girl semi naked

all potential triggers

 

No, you're missing the point.

If you are just using social media to talk to people or whatever, then that clearly has nothing to do with nofap.

If you are on females profiles... that is not something to be proud of. You're not gaining anything from lurking on girls' profiles.

What I am trying to say is, don't go LOOKING for artificial sexual stimulation. If you're on social media and you're not searching for girls or provocative pictures to get u slightly horny so you can masturbate, then no issue. but if you go on facebook/instagram etc deliberately searching for a girl then you have a problem.

I think you already know what you can and cant do. anything that seems too good to be true, usually is. you need to be honest with yourself and think 'is what im doing beneficial to nofap?'

 

I've been addicted to dating apps, chat rooms whatever you can find. Those things didn't classify as porn but they had the exact same effect on me.

I would spend hours or whole days on them just trying to get off.

 

When you say get off do you mean disconnect ? Like delete your account or get off = bust a nut?

 

Bust a nut unfortunately and these days more like trying to stop using them

 

Yeah. I know this struggle. It freaking sucks. It takes me several tries to rid myself of these things.

 

no. i did NoFap for 1 year with watching porn evry now n then before. and after a year i relapsed. it didnt help me compared to not watching porn.

NoFap NO PORN or it doesn't count. sorry.