Easy Mode? / Post-Victory Mode? / M & O wi

Hey guys, I thought of a bizarre idea based on an experience I had yesterday. As an introductory remark, I should note for those of you who don't know me here, that I've completed 1000+ days (I only know from multiplying 365 by the number of complete years since I don't need a counter anymore). I still stick around here to mentor others and also for the general good spirit and all things that seem to apply as life advice in general.

Anyway, onto the idea...

By all means, you want to quit PMO all the way. But what if you really could do it in pieces? You'll still need the desperation for it to go away completely. There are a few possibilities we'll go over before getting to the one I'm proposing.

P without M or O = are you just a film enthusiast researching sex scenes? Probably not, so this seems not very fulfilling. If you are a film enthusiast, still not very fulfilling since most porn isn't known for its cinematography.

P and M without O = edging = this one has always seemed like torture to me and has upset my stomach before.

P and O without M = is this possible? I did actually ejaculate from meditation once, and I wouldn't even call the thought process I was experiencing a fantasy really. This is unlikely to happen though or be something you choose to try.

M & O without P = now we're getting closer to where I'm going. If you remove the P, you get away from supporting the sick injustices of the porn industry, and you get away from objectifying women / desensitizing or improperly sensitizing yourself to interaction with females. This to me does seem a notch above PMO, but it still doesn't entirely remove the physiological fixation and it doesn't leave you in working order for the natural pace of life among half a population consisting of the opposite gender.

What else is there besides the deplorable one, PMO?


What if you did the last one, M & O without P, but you conditioned yourself carefully by thinking positive, prosocial thoughts about women. You may even go so far as to think it's wrong to imagine a girl you know and do this, that's fine. Make up a female, you know what they look like in general, you know your preferences. Fantasize and beat off, but this isn't the normal M & O without P; you have to include positive and respectful thoughts about women, and the woman you're thinking of. This counters the problem that PMO is sex without emotions.

Anyway, maybe you'll find over time that this isn't the most fulfilling. You already know that PMO didn't end well so you quit that. M & O & some respect without P might at first give you the physiological relief you need to ease into the idea of not doing PMO at all. Just a thought. Maybe I'm trying to convince myself I can rub one out. Who knows?

 

Thanks for your detailed response. Yeah I agree with you there, this definitely isn't a method for everyone. It needs to be something you can view as completely separate from the unhealthy PMO routine. That was my thought is that if you can ditch PMO for a long time, but something still feels empty or wrong... maybe you need to rebuild the association in a positive way and get past the physiological part. Ultimately the goal is still the same, quit PMO and exclusively conduct sexual relations with real women.