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Sending Pics (sexting)

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by aristotling, Jan 19, 2014.

  1. aristotling

    aristotling Fapstronaut

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    This girl and I have been sending photos to each other on a dating android app. Nothing too explicit, just skin, but I'm obviously high on dopamine now. I'm worried, am I undoing all my good work of avoiding P? I was justifying it to myself on the basis that it would escalate to hooking up, but that's unlikely now, so I've just dopamine'd my head off for no reason. I need some guidance on this issue.
     
  2. William

    William Fapstronaut

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    Honestly Dude, I am astounded that almost 70 days in you are playing with fire. By most standards, you are a veteran.

    Read this thread, get educated.

    http://www.nofap.org/forum/showthread.php?3617-Humbled-Reset&highlight=wannariseabove

    By the way, there never was a reason to artificially release dopamine except to get high. If you are releasing it for any reason other than actual, real, sex, you are using. Even if you don't relapse, and I hope you do not, you are in for some withdrawals.

    Sorry if this is direct, but I think you asked a direct question.

    I wish you the best of luck.

    Good luck on your journey.
     
  3. aristotling

    aristotling Fapstronaut

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    I know. I didn't initiate it, but I carried it on for the possibility of real sex. Little chance of relapsing (because my brain has probably rewired itself to get dopamine fixes on sources other than porn), but you're right, I'm having a dopamine comedown now.
     
  4. Caveat Emptor

    Caveat Emptor Distinguished Fapstronaut

    You said you're messaging her on a dating app... Have you met her in person? If not, there's no gurantee you ever will and it probably has the same effect on you as something like pornstar nudy pics, IMO.

    Unless you've met her person, she's just another goodlooking set of pixels, no offense to her, in case you've had some good conversations with her.
     
  5. aristotling

    aristotling Fapstronaut

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    No I haven't met her. Mind you, I'm not sure what difference that would make. Either it's all as bad as porn or it isn't, no?
     
  6. Caveat Emptor

    Caveat Emptor Distinguished Fapstronaut

    I guess, in my mind, if you have met in person, the pics are just an extension of any real, physical intimacy that may exist between you two.
    Until then, its just a random fleeting sexy thing online.

    That's just my opinion. I haven't heard much about this phenomenon in regards to NoFap. I'm intersted in hearing other Fapstronaunt opinions.

    Have you tried making plans to meet her in person?
     
  7. aristotling

    aristotling Fapstronaut

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    Yeah, the boundary between what's pornographic and what's not is very fuzzy. Some fapstronauts would suggest that even checking out a passerby on the street has the same essential effect as porn. I'm highly skeptical.

    She wasn't in the area for long, so I missed my chance. I don't think she was interested in meeting up anyway. Alas; a pointless waste of time.
     
  8. Caveat Emptor

    Caveat Emptor Distinguished Fapstronaut

    Sorry to hear that, bro.
    She might have just been using you as a shallow online dopamine source.

    Move on, man. There's something real around the corner. =)
     
  9. Ed_Brazil

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    Just my opinion:

    What may be harmfull is not exactly the object in question (in this case, the "sexting), but how you use this object.
    So two scenarios may occur:
    - Scenario one: You are not doing anything related to PMO, even "mind" PMO with this sexting. You just look at the pictures as if you were looking to an automobile picture, and plans to meet this girl.
    - Scenario two: You have found a way to circumnavegate your NoFap, you discovered a Faping alternative which will work in your brain like porn.

    Obviously, scenario one may be ok, whilsht scenario two is not ok. And judging by the way you spoke about "dopamine high", it seems sadly you are on the bad scenario 2.

    I suggest you quit it if is someting virtual. If it is something that may become real, just say "hey, no more pictures. I want you in person", and do what you said.
     
  10. William

    William Fapstronaut

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    This is a repost, understand that for a porn addict, porn is not just porn.

    Porn is seeing porn, it is watching it, it is thinking about it, it is imagining it, it is remembering it, it is thinking about it while MOing even if you are not actually watching it, it is PMOing, it is fantasizing, it is edging while watching or thinking about it, it is having actual sex while thinking of porn, it is porn substitutes, any hypersexualized imagery or thought of that. Porn can be strictly in the brain, or it can be in hard copy, it can be on computers, televisions, and on smart phones, as in apps. Porn is phone sex. Porn is engaging any thought of unreal sex. Porn is chat rooms. Porn is sex toys. For one guy in this forum, porn is a cock ring. Porn does not have to be visual, it can be strictly audio. Porn can be literature about sex. Porn does not have to be on porn sites, it can be found on Facebook, Craigslist, Youtube, etc. It can be found on commercial retail sites; Sears, Target, Walmart. For me, when I first started quitting, I told myself I was making progress because I moved from very hardcore stuff to Google images, where I searched vanilla nudes. Bikini pics trigger me. Lingerie models trigger me. Hooters girls trigger me. Just girls on the street trigger me if I let them, but I don't. I consciously have decided not to let hypersexualized images linger in my head. Before, I was not making progress, I was still feeding my dopamine fix. You have to avoid your triggers, not flirt with them. Let me say this again--you have to avoid your triggers, not flirt with them. Your triggers are not going to be merely the hardcore stuff you are trying to quit watching, they will be much softer stuff than can pop out on you from benign sites like Yahoo, Craigslist, Google. You have know that in advance and plan on avoiding them. You have to get your dopamine levels back down. That will take time (could be 30 days) and requires a total absence of porn in your head. If you are walking down the street in the middle of the day thinking about porn, you are using porn, so find something else to pop in your head if that situation occurs.

    Get clean, then go have real sex with real women while thinking about the woman you are with.

    Peace.
     

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