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Sex without ur penis?

Discussion in 'Dating during a Reboot' started by young Dale Dan Tony, Aug 20, 2019.

  1. young Dale Dan Tony

    young Dale Dan Tony Fapstronaut

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    I suffer from flatline, have ED, and im currently at day 23. What u think about having sex without ur penis? Just use hands and mouth, will this be helping to get used to the real deal instead of porn? Or will this slow down the reboot process?
     
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  2. You made my brain hurt.

    Is this a kind of cuckling?
     
  3. young Dale Dan Tony

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    Haha yeah you think its madness? Well if a girl knows my situation and I want to please her, nothing wrong with that right
     
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  4. Hmm ok are you asking if there is anything wrong with disconnecting emotionally from penis-sex and doing only oral ?
     
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    Well disconnecting emotionally im not quite sure what u mean with that? I know my penis is there and in recovery, would be best to not touch it as long as possible (untill my erections are back at 100%). And if I want to please her with my mouth and hands only, I think it will also teach me to be turned on the natural way instead of porn. What do you think?
     
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  7. If you suffer from ED, the reset benefit is obtained by abstaining from the dopamine circuit in non-person sex. (Pixels in a screen, cyber sex m, etc).

    Sounds like you are attempting a reboot with a person. If you didn’t have ED I would say this would’ve been ok because the psychological and biological connections would be intact. But since yours are impaired via Ed, it doesn’t make sense.

    A “reset “ is helpful for the mind and penis reconnections.

    We build attachments by what we spend time with, what we watch, what we train on. When you orgasm you bond with that thing —it can be an inanimate object, a porn actress, shoes, or a real person.

    If you are bonding intending to not activate your penis, while you are in a reboot—what do you think the cognitive pathway look like afyer 30 days?

    You would be having sexual thoughts while expecting your penis to NOT function. I think you are training your impairment to continue at a certain level so I would not advise that yet.

    I would expect you would regain some sensitivity for erecting your penis, however you are also training your brain to accept non-responsive penile state.

    I’d be cautious.

    Definitely would say you need at least a 90 day monk mode.

    I understand a monk mode reset provides faster and deeper results.

    Brain elasticity is amazing. You just are watering it down and asking for a miracle at the same time.
     
  8. young Dale Dan Tony

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    Thanks for your detailed reply, it makes more sense for me now.

    Allow me to explain my situation further;
    I first did 65 days of no pmo untill I met a girl and had sex, erection was around 85% and within 20sec I orgasmed. 2nd time I tried I couldnt do it anymore.

    During (and before) this 65 days I had the worst flatline, zero libido and dead dick symptons. No interest in the female body, no sex fantasies, barely any morning wood and if I had, erec was not more than 80%.

    Had 1 wet dream (1st in my life) in the middle of the reboot but it didnt do anything for the recovery process in my opinion.

    Now this current reboot (day29) is different, no pmo, when I see sexy pics on social media i ignore and scroll down quick, and try to immeditately discard any porn fantasies.

    Last 1,5 week the nights are getting different. I fantasize all the time about girls I know know in real life and im really horny. Erec is around 90% and this is pretty much all night (I wake up around 4 times at night). My nights are more restless then ever but at least Im more interested in real woman day by day.

    So I think im going in the right direction but I agree that 90 days would be better.
    But ow man I just met a girl she is so pretty and I cant stop thinking about her and im horny, but my erec is not 100% yet. Life is difficult sometimes ‍♂️
     
  9. I see what you mean. I experienced my first flat line this year. Fucking hated it. It made me anxious like never before. I see my journal entries in that period and I am embarrassed.

    Yeah.

    Let me caution you slightly , the 90 day isn’t a gold standard. In fact I’d encourage you to read @Fenix Rising stuff. 34.5 weeks is my personal goal and it’s more complete. That’s a better average of actual brain revitalization and normalization. 90 days is a basic “detox” formula but there lots of sub-molecular processes that take 30+ days to do including the life cycle of sperm. Everyone is different. Review your diet. That is important. Sleep. Also important. Exercise.

    Doing just no pmo and fucking everything else up is not ideal. Optimize this journey with the other elements my brother. See the difference.
     
  10. young Dale Dan Tony

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    Thanks bro I will definitely read the fenix rising stuff. Will do my best to make my reboot a succes!

    Its just..since I reboot alot of woman have came down my path, exactly at the wrong moment haha, hopefully I can resist them or work someting out.
     
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  11. MisterDirection

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    Geez louise.

    If she means somethi.g loke a possible wife AND she knows and accepts your issues what's the problem be with her however you can if it stand up or not .

    If she's the one and you marry her then who cares how long the reboot takes.

    If it's just a passing fancy then do whatever you want just understand that it is with a real person no doubt and the goal..it will provide so.e thep of dopamine response so the choice is yours.

    Not much of one in my book if she's supporting you and wants you and your mind is in the right place. You would be a fool to let her go
     

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