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Longer term rebooters - PAWS?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by diddykong, Sep 24, 2016.

  1. I've tried just about everything for sleep. Nothing worked for me. It is torture.
     
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  2. I'm over sleeping now days and still feel a bit sluggish. I've only had probably a dozen or so restful sleeps this year, where I actually feel replenished and dont feel like effort to go asleep.
     
  3. humbleone

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    Hi guys, I posted in the other PAWs thread, as I think I am also going through them, and I imagine I will be due to severity of my use of sex, porn and drugs. I have two questions:

    1) Around every 3-4 weeks I have an attack of urges/fantasies but the content is traumatizing/scary. Do the crazy fantasies and urges ever return to more normal content or calm in to more normal urges - for example never really been into TS porn or anything - but since started nofap brain is craving to meet up with one or do something else similarly new and exciting when urges come.

    2) Anxiety has improved drastically - but at 5 months mark, the brain ache/throb and anxiety are still present - do they ever go away?

    Any insight until when the crazy urges/craving will return to normal, and when the anxiety might finally lift?
     
  4. When you say heaches/brain throb do you mean like tension headaches/pressure sensation?
     
  5. humbleone

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    It's not a headache, it's around 1 inches from the front of my head, and in the middle, say an area 2 inchesx1 inch that aches/throbs/pulsates most of the time 24/7, gets really intense around anxiety or any related sex thoughts

    I wouldn't say it is painful, mildly uncomfortable and distracting, can be quite annoying after a while.

    Any advice regarding the urges/fantasies @Big Lebowski - I know your further down the path then me
     
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  6. AspiringVitality

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    Do you have severe brain fog or derealization? Could be your pre frontal cortex making changes due to abstinance..
     
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    Hey man, first off don't let my counter take away any credibility. I've made a lot of progress but recently relapsed. Like a day ago. It wasn't a full on relapse, but anyway...

    I think with any longterm goal in life, there are definitely dips. You seem like you are adding a lot of good things into your life, and I think it is okay to fall off track every once in a while. However, to keep you going I would suggest thinking about how bad it sucks to be a porn addict. Here is a reminder:

    You masturbate to porn and feel no satisfaction from it.
    You want to do it again and again and again but it never satisfies.
    You won't feel like you can stop until you reach a point where you are doing it way too much and watching weird shit on the internet that shocks your brain with overstimulation.
    You feel depressed because your dick probably won't work for a while now with a real girl.
    The dopamine and adrenaline rush from viewing porn have increased your threshold so much that nothing in life seems pleasing anymore except for porn.

    It just really sucks man. I don't know about you, but I never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever want to feel that way again.
     
  8. I have experienced this wake up feeling extra tired 1 year ago in my reboot. I still do but can wake up if I want to... Compare to before, I used to wait almost noon to go brush my teeth or eat something.
     
  9. humbleone

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    I would say I for sure have brain fog - I put it down to all the drugs I have done, but perhaps it's related.

    This ache/pulsating is definately wierd, as not many report it, but it's 100% linked to nofap - it started when I started this journey.

    I think it's important to note I also did a lot of cocaine which I stopped at the same time, so maybe this is linked
     
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  10. It happened to me too as I used to watch a lot of ts porn. That's called OCD or HOCD something like that. Most of the fantasies died down as I'm coming to 1 year hardmode. Just the other day brain fog gave a break and I was thinking " how silly I was to even engage by watching those king of porn?"
     
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  11. Depends on the mode, I started hard mode 1.5 years ago. I stupidly kept relapsing on and off before that.
    I haven't had any really bad insomnia, but don't feel refreshed upon waking neither.

    The benefits are subtle but noticeable, it just takes a lot of time. Dreams returning has been a real eye-opener. Recently my erectile response has been way, way healthier than it was, anxiety is very gradually improving. It goes really slow but like Churchill said if you're going through hell, keep going.

    Here's a good trick to help you fall asleep: at night, take a shower or a bath. Avoid any computers or cell phones after 10 pm. You can watch tv should you want, after that, get into bed and start reading (whatever you want). Try to immerse yourself in what you are reading. It is excellent meditation. You will relax and your eyes will go heavy. After about 10 pages it will be incredibly hard to resist the sandman.
    good luck!
     
  12. Mentally I'm getting better. Penis for the most part is like a dead fish at the moment. Have had two or three occasions with rock hard boners, everything else is sluggish at best. Libido has popped up last month for a couple of days. I think for me going into the second year will be where real recovery will happen in terms of it all the way it has been going.
     
  13. Cutting caffeine out has helped me tremendously as well folks. I can rest much better now, brain fog better, memory tad better. I used to drink caffeine quite a bit years ago like sugar free red bulls and diet coke with coffees. I dont think that helped at all with PMO. But I'm doing much better. I dont know whether I have got more sensitive to caffeine or I was just going through caffeine withdrawal, I think the latter to be the case as I've had some pulsating headaches at the front of my head.
     
  14. I wasnt drinking as much coffee nowdays only one maybe two out of routine, didn't even get alert. I think it messed my sleep schedule right up.
     
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  15. Brain Fog

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    This, a hundred times over. I used to binge-drink coffee, on some occasions tea, for years, and most nights I couldn't sleep without "sedating" myself with PMO.

    Now? I haven't had any coffee, and only a few cups of tea, since February, and while my brain fog, memory issues, difficulty concentrating, social difficulties, anxiety, and other awful symptoms haven't budged (due to my recent relapse; kindling is serious shit), I no longer have restless nights. I fall asleep within 15 minutes or less.

    Definitely cut caffeine out, even if you're not having sleep-related issues. It can only do good for you, and it'll definitely help with NF.
     
  16. It seems the 2 months hardmode abstinence apply for each year you've been an addict. I'm close to 13 months and I'll see if it true by month 14. Been addicted for 7 years(7×2 = 14 mo).
     
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  17. Brain Fog

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    If it is true, that would be amazing. I hope it is. But if it's not, don't give up the fight, because you're already ahead by miles.

    If that's true for me, I'm looking at around 18-20 months of recovery. It would be less if I hadn't slipped up. I'm going to let that haunt me this time; the fact that if I fall, I'm going to have to wait all that time again.
     
  18. Guysavi

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    It will surely pass.
     
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  19. I'm not really sure because there were dude on the forum who took 18 months to reboot. He was heavily addicted for 9 months. He still took him all that time dealing with PAWS to finish rebooting.
     
  20. I am so so glad I found this information. Thank you everyone. This is exactly what’s going on with me. Wow I’m in the right place. I though I was dying or brain damaged. I’ll take this slow long path if it means I will be feel the magic someday. Even a couple years suffering still means there’s an end. I give props to anyone on this recovery road. It’s highly an unknown phenomenon in a sex filled world and a difficult path. How is this not in the mainstream media?? The brain fog alone should be classified as a dangerous Illness. Ok back to my crying like a baby and laying in my bed because for some reason I can’t face the world because of anxiety. Ty for listening
     
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