Longer term rebooters - PAWS?

You've been in recovery for longest out of all of us - massive respect. In terms of future sexual relations whether thats casual or in a relationship etc - how do you think this will effect us and our recovery? Had you had any sexual partners since you started recovery?

Im at 6 months and wondering if a partner would be okay - or am I seriously porlonging PAWS etc - cos if I have to wait I will - or to be honest youd prefer never to have sex then to deal with this

 

Couldn’t get out of bed and random weeping. Called in sick. I’m really having a hard time. I’m on 65 days no cig and like 17 days NoFap. Double depression? Double withdrawal. Double anxiety? Maybe an extra bad day. Agoraphobia. I’m 43 been daily fapping since 15 years old and smoked for 25 years. Heavy. Quit all cold turkey. I kinda feel like a should buy a pack of cigs and ride out the PAWS for a year, and quit smoking next year. This is crippling. I feel like the heroin withdrawals locked in a room on movies or something. But this I cannot do. Help please

 

Unfortunately we have no choice other than accept the suffering. My withdrawal symptoms are still intense at 13 mo hardmode. It's so bad that I called out of work since last week.

 

I thought so. Do you or were you ever a smoker btw. Just trying to figure some stuff out

 

Quitting smoking was the hardest thing I’ve ever done. I smoked for 20 yrs and spent 10 of those years trying to quit.

It was harder than quitting alcohol and drugs and I’ve been clean and sober for almost 22 years.

I hate to suggest anyone go back to smoking bc it’s so bad for you but I couldn’t get clean and sober and quit smoking at the same time.

The withdrawal from cigarettes was so bad and the withdrawal from A & D was all I could take at one time. I couldn’t have kicked both habits at the same time.

I can’t tell you to smoke bc it’s awful but don’t set yourself up for failure. We’re imperfect human beings doing the best that we can do.

Maybe take one thing at a time, one day at a time. I can’t tell you what you do. I can only tell you my experience.

I drank & drugged for 15 years then got clean and sober. Then spent the next 10 years trying to quit smoking before I was successful. Haven’t smoked in 9 years. Now I’m trying to tackle another addiction, PMO. Who knows how long this will take. Someday I’ll deal with my caffeine addiction but I’ll probably be on my deathbed by then.

Life, huh?

 

Was only a pmo addict for 7 years.

 

Ty y’all for listening. I think I’m just having an extra rough day. Maybe I better put my phone down for a bit and breath lol. Man this ain’t for the faint of heart

 

Something just hit me....maybe this thing with the mood swings and depression still hiting the guys who have done stretches of over 200 or even 300 days if from our brains neding to get off. Yeah, I know, but hang on a sec. The human brain is maybe not meant to go without orgasm for so long. It may be your brain reaching for that after a long while, saying in effect, "Hey where's the O that a normal human being is supposed to be having once in a while?" I think other than the occasional returning withdrawl symptoms that this is harmless, but to answer to it and jerk even once would be putting yourslef at risk of the chaser effect, full-on relapse to PMO, and who knows what else. I'll ride out the return of some of the recurrent withdrawl symptoms over that any day. I have noted that this is a frequent complaint amongst even those who are on very long stretches, even stretches of over 200 days. Also, even after a long time recovered from PMO, we are STILL neurochemically addicts to it for life. Answering that call to jerk even without P is going to effect us way worse than someone who is, say, a retainer or recreational/tourist Fapstronaut who wasn't addicted to P or M in the first place. So any way you slice it, any relapse will always hit us hard and is not worth it.

 

I bet a crackhead would really like one more hit too☺️

 

Anyone expressing this floating motion feel that feels like you're in the water or a boat? I used to have this couple years back for a short while after being in an elevator, but it wasn't pretty much constant like now. I guess my body was already so exhausted back then from 20+ years of PMO, but I still continued even with PIED and all that stuff. I should've known to connect it to PMO. It gets more intense after I've O'd regardless of P or not.

 

Yes I know that feeling. Its nervous system related and could be a withdrawal symptom or side effect from heavy PMO

 

There's also head pressure and tingling in the frontal lobe. Makes you wonder if kindling can really kill you or permanently damage the brain.

 

In theory, yes it could. But looong before that happens you will probably be so fed up with, or inable to function due to, the effects and hell symptoms that you will want to quit no matter what.

 

Holyfuckingshit Im So grateful that you shared your stories. PAWS hit me after about a year without PMO(Not completely clear, edging ocasionally and MOed twice few weeks ago). I was feeling extremely powerful and motivated for a long time and I thought I was already healed. But some time ago weird things started to happen with my body and brain, and finally, thanks to people like you I can link it with my PMO recovery and stop freaking out about my health.Tensions in my body, unwanted thoughts, brain fog, shortness of breath,catching a flu like every week, dizziness, unability to focus etc...
It really helped for me to know that it could be all caused by this fucking addiction. Now Im trying to picture it as a final fight for my life, and if its the price I have to pay, Im taking it.
We are really special brothers(and sisters), just think about it, not many people could handle this crazy shit that we have to go through. But I do believe that nothing is an coincidence. This suffering has a reason and it HAVE TO eventually give us the rewards that we deserve and want. It is much better to share my feelings with someone who can understand.
Stay strong, we will get the fuck out of this misery.

 

Yup. That’s what we all say when we find nofap and other men with these INTENSE INSANE mysterious symptoms. Holyfukkinshit. I went to the Er 2x when my brain first collapsed thinking I was having a stroke or something. But they never find anything. It is a relief of sorts to find other men with this, but when you see how long it can last if you fap again it’s scary. It can be permanent unless you stop pmo. Forever. If you think your healed and try it, you will see and you will suffer again. Sucks. Pro tip: just stay away from screens. Video games, YouTube, all social media. Anything that will make dopamine that’s not from real life. But what do I know, I’m just a weirdo pervert. Figure out what works for you. I relapsed last week a few times cuz I got very sensitive and now I’m back in shit town zombie mode idiot suck ass fukk. Don’t let a few good days make you think you aight. It’s the illusion of the addiction. Your brain wants dopamine. I don’t even know why I’m even writing anything at all cya gl

 

What was your history with pmo?
Were you a long addict and severe?

 

I find out even listening to music is not good for my PAWS symptoms.

 

Yeah man 20 plus years. A bunch of pied sad relationships at least once a day. Same as all of us. Got worse with smartphones I spose. I’m a cliche. Not any more or any less than anyone else on here

 

Yeah man sux. I can barely watch movies without just feeling like shit and weird guilt. It’s hard to explain. I don’t want to do anything atm again. I forgot how bad this sux