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Porn or masturbation arent bad by themselves

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by Cprelude, Sep 21, 2019.

  1. Cprelude

    Cprelude Fapstronaut

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    I think that the only time it is seriously bad is when it develops degrading fetishes like femdom or beastilty

    If you are here and struggling not to fap to normal healthy sex I think you are making your life more difficult than it needs to be, I've seen threads here from people panicking they got a random boner or feel an urge to fap to a random woman, that's just the sign of a healthy normal libido

    You guys are finding problems that arent really problems and stressing out over nothing if you cant pinpoint a specific problem that has come from your experience with pmo dont expect any problems to be solved from ceasing it. If you had anxiety before ever masturbating then don't expect nofap to stop it when fapping was never even the fault

    masturbation isn't what's stopping you from living the Chad life it's a mega cope here, a lot of guys here would be the same without any porn or masturbation,
    only some(like I) have been legitemly hurt by it
     
  2. Maybe you're right for many cases.
    I think it depends on where the motivation to stop masturbation, porn, sex comes from. If this motivation comes from deep down inside you, why not doing it? If it comes from the outside, from a dubious moral or a constricting religion, that you do not really agree with, then it gets problematic.
     
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  3. I respect your opinion, but it does not apply to everyone here by any means. Addiction is awful. It ruins your life and makes you a slave to your urges, and people here don't want to live that way anymore. It's not an overreaction if you have an addiction. If you don't, then sure, maybe it's not too big of a deal.
     
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  4. Get_It

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    Both are negative and will lead to one becoming an enslaved coomer.
     
  5. I think a lot of people are confused by my take which is similar.

    Masturbation isn't really my probelm. Porn is. I can Jack off, clean up and be done with it. Porn on the other hand entices me to stay. And stay and stay. It starts perverting my sex life, and dominos fall down that should be standing up.

    Can I be addicted to Masturbation? I dunno. I've found that after clearing my body of sperm the desire fades. I have a Schedule for Masturbation and stick to it. When I masturbate I strictly focus on my Penis and making it cum. I do not fantasize in my minds eye while I'm playing with myself

    A relapse for me would look like me being on a porn website day after day getting nothing done. My goal here is to curb my glances online, I'm still gonna play with it. ;)
     
  6. Cprelude

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    I cant fap to submissive thoughts with my imagination it's too revolting for me, without porn I either fap to normal thoughts or just don't get aroused
     
  7. Get_It

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    What does your schedule look like?
     
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  8. Tell me more about this unicorn-world of yours where porn doesn't exploit female (and male) performers and ruin marriages because of PIED (as suggested by the countless threads of people sharing their sad stories).
     
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  9. I masturbate to orgasm 1 time a week. (Saturdays)

    I usually do not edge. I just deal with the erections and precum all week until Saturday
     
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  10. Cprelude

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    What do you mean by exploited? That they get paid to have sex with stuff they agree to and most likely enjoy? You can call them exploited but they are laughing to the bank


    I dont justify porn though I think it should be banned
     
  11. 1. Many "actresses" have been kidnapped in order to be sexually exploited. Look at criminal statistics. It's not an irrelevant crime. How else can you called it if not exploitation?
    2) If someone has the economic power to force someone else to do something that she (or he) doesn't want to do, then this is called exploitation.
     
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  12. Cprelude

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    1. Idk what darkweb pornstars you're talking about,what do you say of all the pornstars who are not kidnapped(basically everyone that people watch on pornhub)in 1st world countries
    2. If they didn't want to do it they wouldn't do it, you cant force someone to do a job by offering to pay them, its simply someone agree to having sex(mostly sex they enjoy) for money,

    Also rise of internet a lot of pornstars are self managed like camgirls
     
  13. onceaking

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    Hmm I don't know about porn. Some porn might be ethical but some of it isn't and can you really know what is ethical. If you go on a porn tube site it's not really ethical. So much on there is pirated and there's nothing stopping someone from making a video of someone who's trafficked and posting it on the sites. Also, some porn stars are coerced into filming. There are some porn companies that are supposed to be ethical but I don't know if it's possible for them to be completely ethical. Plus you have to pay a subscription and most don't want to do that. Having said all this it's pretty tough to purchase products just from ethical companies.

    As for masturbation I agree it isn't wrong per se, it's just if you're addicted to it.
     
  14. onceaking

    onceaking Fapstronaut

    This video will explain things better:

    The woman in this isn't anti-porn but she thinks the industry has problems. She actually started her ethical porn site. Thing is girls are coherced into the industry and we're not talking about some site on the darkweb.
     
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  15. Cprelude

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    Sorry I couldn't finish the video shes rambling unintelligibly but no one forced her to do porn, she could have left any time she wanted, maybe agents push them but what are we talking about "using a bigger sextoy than expected" most of these girls have never had a normal job in their lives they're walking on easy mode and want to claim victim status as well
     
  16. Infrasapiens

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    Pornography = Bad. Or at least pathetic.
    Masturbation = Not necessarely bad.
     
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  17. onceaking

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    She never claims she was forced into it. She gave up a job on Wall Street to do porn. But she met other porn stars who were coerced into doing porn. If a porn producer turns up at a high school party and starts talking to impressionable and naive teenagers of course they'll be convince a great number to do porn. And if you think it's simple for a porn star to quit and just get another job, you don't have much of an idea about how the job market actually works.
     
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  18. Cprelude

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    Sorry I don't buy it in my mind they are just turned on by the idea of being used and degraded by Chads and are getting paid for it instead of working a normal job(which they hate)
    Its 2019 women know what a porn job is or at least know 90% of what it is a producer cant trick them thinking it's something entirely else, people who defend their choices naively think your average 2019 woman is a nun with moral values and would be disgusted at the idea of doing porn, there's also thousands being sugar babies, escorts, camgirls e.t.c I've known a few and they're laughing at the easy money

    There are certain jobs that don't accept you if you did porn but is exaggerated most jobs still will, the ones that dont pornstars had no intention of doing in the first place

    I agree that producers do take advantage of these women's stupidity but that doesn't absolve them instead reminds why modern feminism is a mistake
     
    Last edited: Sep 22, 2019
  19. Zfighter2020

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    So now that we’re talking about the subject, is it true that chronic masturbation may lead to an imbalance in the legs? Anyone else here experience ankle pain? Is there any truth to “masturbation leads to weak legs?”
     
  20. Zfighter2020

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    A lot of people say marijuana isn’t addicting, and marijuana addicts are often told by hardcore drug addicts that marijuana is no big deal, yet marijuana anonymous exist. Some people react differently to certain substances. Some just happen to fall into porn, among other things. It varies
     

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