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Should the term “milf” exist in nofap?

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by need4realchg, Sep 30, 2019.

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milf should be allowed/ tolerated

  1. Yes

    53.6%
  2. No

    46.4%
  1. Get_It

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    Oh wow, I thought you were a dude originally.
     
  2. Get_It

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    We live in the "Outrage" era where if everything is not aligned with some people's PC mindset, they have public meltdowns. Like the gif of that girl/guy I posted and also that event where the Vape store clerk Millenial dude got extremely butthurt because a Trump supported wanted to buy Vape supplies.

    My feeling is be Butthurt if you like, but realize you're only benefitting these guys:
    trump.gif AJ.gif
     
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  3. IbrahimViking

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    I almost regret that I mentioned my gender because I only now realized why I chose to do so. Almost - because it's an eye opener.
    I was afraid that someone would think that I was misogynistic and must have thought (not fully consciously!) that me being of a certain gender could protect me from that. More than that, I'm pretty sure my calculations were accurate.

    In other words, I used sexism in order to avoid looking sexist. That is a sad state of affairs, but also funny. :D
     
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  4. Get_It

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    Well I was just speaking with someone else about this place and we both agreed that it seems like the site has been overtaken by sensitive soyboys/bugmen and people that are butthurt about every single dam thing. Thanks for not being one of those people.:)
     
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  5. I personally try not to use it because it's objectifying, it could be "men I'd like to fuck" for all I care, it would still be objectifying in my opinion.
     
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  6. What does Gumby say ? Lol.
     

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  7. Bingo.
    “Dad’s I’d like to fuck.”
    Has a certain ring to it.

    Thank you Anne . You made the point I was grasping it.
     
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  8. rebirthofT

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    Strange that people immediately assume a grown up discussion about the consequences of using certain words must be about censoring and trying to avoid offence. I don't care for creating endless rules about what you can and can't say, but surely it's only right to call it out when you disagree with the use of certain words?
     
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  9. No, I stand by what I said. Older women (of which MILFS are a subset) have no interest in younger guys besides sex. I know what I meant, don't try to play mindgames with me.
     
  10. rebirthofT

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    Pretty big generalisation. I mean, yeah, it's probably true most of the time, but there are plenty of exceptions. And how much of an age gap are you talking, anyway?
     
  11. This whole thread is just all over the place. There's no structure to any of these arguments, it's just people throwing vacuous opinions around and assuming way too much (myself included). I think this needs to be reformatted as a proper debate with two clear sides, concise definitions, and rigorous standards of evidence if we're going to get anywhere.
     
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  12. We're not talking about saying it to people's face, are we? This is stretching the whole context of the discussion. And words aren't something that need to be defended... They just exist. The most you can get away with is that using certain words is contrary to various standards of etiquette. Which I agree with. But should certain words be allowed to be used? Well we can say mom. We can also say I. We can say like. We can say to. And we can say fuck. So by basic logic, we should in theory be able to say "mom I'd like to fuck." I'll say what I said before: the acronym is useful in that it defines intentions. Whether you call a MILF a MILF, or you call her something else, she is still a person you want to get in bed with. The intention is still there. You're still thinking it, and changing language doesn't change the thoughts and connotative meaning of the word(s).
     
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  13. I should have prefaced that by saying "in general." Glad you agree. And the fact that there are exceptions does not change the usefulness of the term MILF. And the age gap is determined by context and by society.
     
  14. True. That was taking it out of the context of discussion. That was my fault for thinking other people talk to people online as they would face to face. It’s clear some of the people on here do not fear any real consequences from the choice of words they use when taking to other people.

    Context is key.

    I agree as well.

    I don’t believe I advocated that certain words be banned. I did say certain words don’t belong really in recovering porn addicts vocabulary when talking about the opposite sex. Just like certain words shouldn’t be really in the mouths of children even though words themselves don’t need to be defended.
     
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  15. Alright you might be able to make a case for that. As for the effects of using the term MILF as a recovering P addict, it seems like it's TBD for now. But obviously the burden of proof is on OP et. al. Thanks for narrowing this down.

    EDIT: TBH I should just stay away from off-topic stuff for now because it gets me worked up lol. It's just a forum and I take it too seriously sumtimez.
     
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  16. This is not true.

    Older women marry younger guys all the time. They aren’t just after sex,

    I don’t know how old is “older women”... which you are right it requires context. Surely it’s not 1-2 years.

    Plus , the older the woman, the less a milf appellation should matter.

    Women in their 60s or 70 with a man in his 50/60/ are more likely to be interested in companionship than sex.

    Admittedly, i have some empirical evidence of that, nothing more.
     
  17. Yes, it is TBD and I don’t really think we’re ever going to have a definitive answer one way or the other, which is why in my original response I added “IMO”. As for etiquette I think it’s common sense that the word milf is a vulgar/derogatory word.

    Edit: I do find it funny though that in life we won’t let kids say certain words because they’re “grown up” words, but when we as adults use those same words they make us appear immature and childish. The wonders of society.
     
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  18. Fair enough.

    Appreciated the banter all the same. No harm done.

    I didn’t even notice this as offensive in the first months of recovery so tbh I don’t mind your disagreement.

    If it’s solely denotative cool.

    I think the problem with our population is that words are both triggers and also indications of how we categorize women and men according to their sexual value.

    The former is relative to each PA, whereas the latter is relative to all, especially non-PA’s.

    Assuming we plan to leave the addiction, we need to realize at some point (I’m not saying when)— but at some point our language will change to reflect that of a non addict.
     
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  19. I find it a triggering word as it reminds me of a lot of things I looked up for. So I don't think it should be allowed because it may end up sending a lot of guys like me back to the porn.
     
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