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A relapse is not as bad as you think!

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Deleted Account, Oct 2, 2019.

  1. Let’s be honest, we have all relapsed, many many times... and our reaction can cause anger, sadness, confusion, and more unwanted feelings or thoughts.

    But how bad is a relapse actually?
    Not as bad as you think, and actually might help the process.

    Now let me get something straight, a streak of less then a week is not a good streak, and a relapse in this first week is not good, thankfully your streak is not that long, so you shouldn’t feel like you lost too much.

    To those with escalated porn induced fetishes that can be mild fetishes to even extremely disturbing and illegal content, your goal is to rewire your brain to what your true sexual orientation and desires are.

    When you go on a good streak, your healing your brain during this time, a relapse can actually help heal the brain and show you progress you have made.

    Here is an example: Let’s say a straight guy has escalated into porn genres of gay, transsexual, or cuckold. The goal is to rewire the brain so these fetishes go away. So let’s say this man goes 30 days hardmode, and he can’t resist the temptation so he looks at porn, but wait a second, he can watch a video and look at the girl and masturbate to the girl? Why is this? Cause after 30 days the escalation became weaker and he became attracted to a more “vanilla” topic. Now this man goes another 30 days, then relapses to a video of a women having solo sex, now he is just watching videos of women. Now this man goes 50 days without pmo and relapses to a picture of a women, and when he tries to look at the gay porn that once’s aroused him, now looks insanely disturbing and the man is very uninterested and becomes confused on how he ever even watched that topic.


    Going on long streaks is great, but if you go on a streak then masturbate to your fetish, then you aren’t helping yourself and that’s a “bad” relapse. A “good” relapse would be a relapse to softer porn.

    Also if you relapse then binge pmo you hurt yourself even more.

    I’m also not encouraging relapsing at all, remember the longer you go then the faster you heal. Relapsing is still not something you want to do, but it is not as bad as you may think.

    And how can my example be credible? Because the man in the example is me, I became addicted to gay porn, and after going on great streaks for about a year, I was completely returned to my normal sexual tastes and the idea of even being with a man is repulsive to me and watching gay porn makes me wanna vomit. I have now started watching porn again and escalated into incest porn this time... so I’m trying to get out of the hole once again.

    Hope this helps.
     
  2. alexg1709

    alexg1709 Fapstronaut

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    I disagree with this post because most people here if not all are addicted to porn.

    This is the same as telling a drug user in recovery to use drugs once in a while.

    Eventually you will binge and end up back at the starting line.

    It's pretty much what happened to you?
     
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  3. What you are saying makes sense one hundred percent... but like I stated in my post, I’m not encouraging a relapse and it should be avoided.

    My older brother was addicted to a drug, and he was on the brink of eventually overdosing. My parents got him help and the doctors couldn’t make him quit cold turkey, it was impossible, so they had him “slowly” quit which meant they would limit when he could use the drug, and as time passed eventually he didn’t use the drug for months, and so forth he didn’t need it anymore.
     

  4. Me starting to watch porn again was a choice that I made. I never had fully quit I was doing maybe once or twice a week and to soft normal porn. I was still able to get with girls and be happy. One day I met this girl I really liked and she was known as a “good girl” meaning she hadn’t even kissed a guy before let alone do anything else. I got her number and we started going out, I wanted to preserve myself for her. I was a horny guy and I was tempted to get with other chicks, so I told myself instead of being horny, I’ll just fap to porn.

    Have in mind that this is almost 2 years after my whole pmo addiction struggle, so I am on the brink of completely forgetting about it.

    I slowly started to do it every day again and eventually went down the same path I went then and here I am. I made the choice to bring myself down here so this is my consequence. I’m in the same boat as everyone else here except I can tell you all that there is hope for all of us, I’ve beat it, so can everyone else!!!
     
  5. NeverSurrender93

    NeverSurrender93 Fapstronaut

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    I can relate.. after 27 days i had relapsed and the day after wasn't hard.
     
  6. StonePlacidity

    StonePlacidity Fapstronaut

    why do you want to quit the addiction? Quitting PMO makes you more mindful and spiritual, also makes you a better person. I believe different people have different goals to achieve, hence their interpretation of "relapse" is different
     
  7. Fenix Rising

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    When I read that relapses are almost unavoidable part of the recovery process and experienced the consequences of uncontrolled relapse, erasing all the progress I've made, far too many times. I decided to make a preplan on how to react in case of a relapse. Someone here named it "scorched earth" approach… LOL, I guess it kind of is. I didn't have to use it yet and I hope I never will, but it's 100 % operational to date :) Here it is if anyone interested:

    Plan in case of a slip

    I'm on the longest streak I've ever been and it's better to hope for the best and be prepared for the worst than to relapse into multi month long binge like I had last summer, just because I had no emergency plan in place.

    I like to keep plan simple. All my relapses have happened in front of my computer so I have only 2 rules:

    1) A) If I open porn related website -> B) I immediately unplug PC power cord (and stay away from the PC for the rest of the day)

    I have always prepacked backpack in the case of lapse happening:

    2) B) In the case of lapse (=one time MO or PMO) -> C) I immediately take my backpack and go for a 2-3 days hike to prevent lapse becoming full blown relapse

    I didn't need to use second rule yet, but I decided that if lapse happens and I implement second rule, I don't have to reset counter if there isn't another lapse following inside the next 3 months period. I came to this conclusion after reading this article how to avoid shame and guilt cycle from ruining progress you've made -> https://www.smartrecovery.org/stopping-a-slip-from-becoming-a-relapse/

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    "So does this mean that even a brief lapse must lead to a full-blown relapse? Does it mean a person must continue to drink or drug until the use returns to the initial level? Is spiraling out of control inevitable? Simply put, no. A lapse need not become a relapse. After a slip, you have not unlearned all that you have learned. You have not unchanged all that you have changed in your life to support your recovery. You do not have to start counting again from day one.


    If you view your lapse as a mistake and as a product of external triggers, rather than as a personal failure, research shows that you will have a much better chance of return to abstinence quickly. Your lapse becomes a tool to move forward and to strengthen your motivation to change, your identification of triggers and urge-controlling techniques, your rational coping skills, and the lifestyle changes needed to lead a more balanced life."
     
  8. make_change

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    Hi guys, intresting read. Ive been on a long streak and now i keep having small relapses. Usealy after 2-3 weeks. Im not sure why this is, its as if ive lost motavation or staying sober has become boring, I really dont understand. Its not like dont know the harms and benifits, Im well aware. Is like im home sick and I want it back, but I dont ! Im confused
     

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