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Pros and cons of dropping social media completely.

Discussion in 'Self Improvement' started by Don Gately, Apr 15, 2015.

  1. Don Gately

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    I was reading this interview with Vaclav Smil, a "polymath" researcher (he does research in several different subjects) who Bill Gates likes to read, and he said this:

    "I’ve read about 80 books a year for the past 50 years. I come from cultural breeding. I don’t have a cellphone. When you spend all your time checking your cellphone messages, or updating your Facebook (of course I don’t have a Facebook page) then you don’t have any time for reading."

    Instagram was part of the trigger for my major relapse several months ago. While there's no way to block all triggers, and self-discipline is necessary to getting over porn, many of us have found some success with ad-blockers and other band-aid methods to help us solve the real problem and give our bodies and brains time to reboot.

    His quote got me thinking through some pros and cons of social media. If I read 80 books a year, or did anything productive whatsoever with all the time I waste on Facebook, instagram, SnapChat, etc., I would probably have a PhD. But not all of social media is triggers and wasting time, I also get to see what my parents and siblings are doing, read articles from friends, and keep in touch with some people I actually do like to hear from. What are your thoughts? Is it worthwhile to drop social media completely? Only if there's a specific goal (quest might be more apt) one is working on? Has anyone done this?

    Here's what I've got:
    Cons:
    I don't think Facebook has ever gotten me a date with someone I didn't meet in person first.
    I have wasted probably a thousand hours or more.
    There are triggers on Facebook that lead to pornography viewing. It hasn't happened often, but checking out girls there is a habit I'm trying to drop. I don't think that specific behavior on Facebook is good, but I know when I'm doing it.
    Instagram has easily accessibly triggers (pictures of girls showing a lot of skin).
    Social media in general is an easy way to avoid having to think about what I'm actually doing with my time.
    A lot of the opinions of people on Facebook and the articles they post are not worth reading. Bad research, uninformed opinions, rumours, lies, etc.
    I believe that dropping Facebook, or maybe just shutting it down for a long, long time, could be a great part of a strategy that would eliminate needless distractions from my life and help me reach my potential as a human.

    Pros:
    I have gotten a few phone numbers and had good conversations with girls I first contacted via Facebook. Friends of friends, girls from Tinder. The next one could be the one.
    I do like hearing about what a lot of my friends are doing, and seeing them start families is wholesome.
    Facebook Messenger is actually pretty useful and picking up popularity.
    There are uplifting messages on social media. A lot of them are cloying though, and I have a hard time talking myself into watching them.
    I like the approval that comes from posting a picture of places I'm traveling, and it helps me feel like my friends are genuinely interested and informed about my life. It's become so ubiquitous, though, that I feel like people don't say much of substance anymore because of the public, lasting nature of commenting.
    Updates on sports! (this is the Warriors' year, guys, and it's been a long time coming.)
    My family does stay connected pretty well via a private Facebook group. The kids are alright.

    Feel free to add your thoughts. I'm coming to grips with some things in my life that I need to adjust, and I'm trying to be thorough. It takes sacrifice to reach new heights!

    Here's another interview with Smil, if you want to read some cool opinions on eating meat, nuclear power, or manufacturing in the US.
     
  2. RealityCheck1990

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    I don't need to 'drop' social media websites because I never signed up for any to begin with, except for a brief time some 7 or 8 years ago to troll someone. Fake identity, of course. If you want to talk to me, you'll have to do it in person. I know better than to give out personal information to government-run websites (facebook, myspace, hi5, and what have you).

    I don't do cellphones either. Ain't nobody got time for that.
     
  3. Don Gately

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    So what do you do? I know there's a gazillion possibilities out there, but you personally, what keeps your attention? I don't know about going without a cell phone. I like people too much. I could possibly go without a smart phone though.
     
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  4. Kurapika

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    I used social media in the past.
    Facebook for 7 years and Quora for 2 months then I abandoned both.
    Life is much better without them.When I achieve my goal , I will also abandon this forum.
     
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  5. Andrew0268

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    @Kurapika Good thoughts.

    I will keep my FB because it's by far the best way to keep up with people. But I am unfollowing almost everybody except for close friends and family. I don't surf anything on FB except for the newsfeed so I decided to just slim it down some. I want to put more time and energy into making myself better in real life not digital life.
     
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    Plus, I never met a girl on FB either .,.. You are giving up something if you quit FB but I think the payoff is worth it./... plus you can always go back.
     
  7. Freebliss

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    I also unfollowed a lot of people except family and close friends because a lot of people post graphic things.
     
  8. I am conflicted about whether to drop soical media out of my life for good.I only use FB to talk to people that I actually know but there are some triggers on FB when you lurk too long.I spend at least a 5 mins online at most.Plus FB is not really a (in my opionion) good way to meet girls.People can hide who they really are.I always prefered to meet women in person,even before I joined FB.That way you can get a sense of who they are,their body language etc.
     
  9. CountryDude

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    Dropping Facebook.

    Pros include: more time, less worry and anxiety, not having to see stupid posts from people or myself, less embarrassment from drunken posts, less obsession with creating an online life, not being a sucker of Zuckerburg's cock as he plays around with your privacy (kinda like porn, lol), not being sucked into the virtual reality which is where we are heading, kinda like the surrogates film. But the big one is Google.

    No cons.
     
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    This post inspired me to drop my social media -- for good. It was the right thing to do. I don't want the government looking at my life anyways, and FB was pretty vain and shallow.
     
  12. Steel Fury

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    I agree with Brandon Ortiz. It's just a matter of moderation and discipline. I keep my Facebook because I want to stay in touch with friends I have overseas, and it's just the best way to do that. In saying that, I haven't gone about acquiring a massive "friend" list, in fact, I've probably only sent out about six friend requests in six years on FB. Most of my "friends" are people who friended me. I've been cutting back my FB time recently, however, but there are a few things I follow that have decent posts on them occasionally. I've never used Instagram or Twitter, and there are probably other social media sites that I don't even know exist. I just don't see the point of throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
     
  13. Shock Diesel

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    I see both sides of the coin: sure there are positives to social media, but I feel better about my life when I am not surrounded by the temptations induced by social media.

    Back when I had Twitter, Instagram and Facebook, I would get on the computer -- or the phone-- and the first thing I would do is check my messages. Same with email: I can't go a day without checking to see if someone emailed me. Days when I would need to focus on my studies or complete a chore, I would instead spend that time wasting away aimlessly on Facebook; scrolling through the feed, checking out the top stories, etc. The same can be said about my other social media accounts. I got to a point when I realized that, "who gives a fu#^?". Who cares what I post, who really reads the articles or the messages I send people. To a certain extent --and I know I am generalizing here-- but I feel like we've become zombies to our computers and to our phones. I missed those person to person interactions that I used to have growing up. I missed meeting people in person, enjoying the weather, doing things that were fun and positive. Instead, I subjected myself to the negatives of Facebook drama, and peoples negative status' and messages. I got tired of it. I deleted all my accounts and I have NO plans of EVER going back. Mind you, I'm 20 years old and I love all that technology and the latest innovations have to offer.

    A big thing that really pushed me over to join the "dark side" was the fact that I realized that many of my triggers occurred when I would see stimulating images on Facebook or Instagram. Instagram especially, considering all the half naked, booty-filled selfies you can find. It's not easy to quit PMO when you have all these dirty images that surround the user through social media. If I wanted to quit PMO, I needed to cut these triggers out of my life.

    What really turned me off, and what I think many people downplay, is how our information--the stuff we post on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, even the things we Google, is sold to advertising companies and government agencies. Have you ever noticed how after an hour or a day of searching for something specific (like the latest Samsung Galaxy S6), you notice how advertisements seem to magically advertise that same product? Weird yeah? Well, not to sound like Mr. Conspiracy, but the truth is, that information is sold to many companies who now know what your interests are and what you like to do while you're on the web. If you don't believe me, check out a good Frontline documentary on Netflix called, 'United States of Secrets'.

    Finally, as a young adult, I realize that companies are more and more using social media to evaluate job candidates. I might have a pretty clean profile, but maybe I posted some really dumb stuff when I was a teen. What about the inappropriate nature of the posts my friends made on my wall or tagged me in? Too many variables that make me feel uncomfortable about when imagining my future employers seeing.

    I might have rambled on, but these were my reasons for giving up on social media. Sure there are many really valid points that could be made FOR social media, but I believe people should do what works best for them, and frankly, it wasn't working for me.

    Take care!
     
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2015
  14. tskone

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    I was thinking about doing this too.
    I have been using Facebook more often only to check pretty girls pictures and on the road to recovery I feel its very important to drop this habit. It was on an other webpage I read ' quitting porn but still using Facebook to look at girls is like an alcoholic shifting to lite beer'.
    Seems damn right to me. I've already taken the first step, completely stopped Instagram a few weeks back. Facebook is more difficult to avoid. Since there is usually so much happening birthday reminders, getting tagged by friends in different posts (sometimes requires a comment back just not to appear rude) etc.
    But I am sure that it needs to be done in order to justify a complete recovery from porn and behavior that replicate the same dependency.
    And of course social media is an easy way to kill time that could be put to more productive use. Its increasingly become my tool for procrastination.
    Two very good reasons to reduce the time spent on social media.
    I also think that it would be great to completely limit time in the digital world and actually go out and do something real. Gather real experiences, meet real people , interact with friends and strangers face to face.
     
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  15. ds112358

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    There are probably some good things about dropping social media, but I only see the major con: social is going to be a part of our lifestyle for the rest of our lives. So by giving it up, you know that it is going to be temporary. A month or two down the line, when you start using it again, what are the chances there won't be triggers or that your compulsive pattern won't continue? Managing your behaviour and compulsions right now, in my opinion, is a far better option.
     
  16. slamdunk

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    You said it all here by using 'waste' instead of 'spend'.
    No pros will be good enough if you think that is a waste.

    More: what would you think of someone who comes personnally to talk and hang out instead of commenting one picture of yours or text you 3 4 times on social media.

    I myself dont see a big diff between social media and porn: addictive and creepy.
     
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  17. rogue shane

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    is it possible to live without Facebook????
     
  18. Kurapika

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    It's not only possible but much better
     
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  19. rogue shane

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    I think u r right,., its a trap, first we r lured by social media especially fb and then we suddenly find ourselves on porn sites,., whats your opinion sir ???
     
  20. I have not official dropped my social media, but I have effectively stop using them. Haven't been on facebook it several months. Never had a twitter, tumblr, instragram, whatever new spangled thing they have now a days. Real human connection is the only way to live life. Social media is to our relationships what porn is to have sex.
     
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