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Punk Rock, Porn, and Capitalism

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by thexcrimsonxghostie, Apr 22, 2015.

  1. I love Punk. Always have and always will as I've always felt like I shared a kinship with not only the music, but the subculture. One of my most notable observations is that Punk in and of itself doesn't follow a rule book much like these cliques out there with their whole "listen to these bands, dress this way, watch these shows, talks to these guys, DON'T TALK TO THOSE GUYS, read these books, etc." Punk is basically what you make of it: from the Nazi to the Communist, from the Puritanical to the Satanical, from the Elitist to the Nihilist, from the Anarchistic to the Apathetic, from the Straight-edge to the Drunk. But, how many punk rockers out there seem to notice the Porn industry and it's being an oppressive entity bent on exploitation, manipulation, and humiliation for their own profit? Yes, I know that some members the scene does celebrate and even glorify porn; but I've a feeling there are those who understand they aren't a symbol of freedom of expression and anti-censorship... rather they are another gear in the capitalist machine that will gain at the expense of others even it it means expending another by any means necessary.

    Agreed?
     
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  2. himmelstoss

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    I thought it was a way to make music with only 3 power chords.
     
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  3. Limeaid

    Limeaid Guest

    I agree! Original punk is all about protesting the status quo. The lyrics are extremely political so everything you are saying is true.

    I don't know if you'd consider Green Day punk because they're so mainstream but they are definitely influenced by it.

    "American Idiot"
    Don't wanna be an American idiot.
    Don't want a nation under the new mania
    And can you hear the sound of hysteria?
    The subliminal mind fuck America.
    Welcome to a new kind of tension.
    All across the alienation.
    Where everything isn't meant to be okay.
    Television dreams of tomorrow.
    We're not the ones who're meant to follow.
    For that's enough to argue.
    Well maybe I'm the faggot America.
    I'm not a part of a redneck agenda.
    Now everybody do the propaganda.
    And sing along to the age of paranoia.
    Welcome to a new kind of tension.
    All across the alienation.
    Where everything isn't meant to be okay.
    Television dreams of tomorrow.
    We're not the ones who're meant to follow.
    For that's enough to argue.
    Don't want to be an American idiot.
    One nation controlled by the media.
    Information age of hysteria.
    It's calling out to idiot America.
    Welcome to a new kind of tension.
    All across the alienation.
    Where everything isn't meant to be okay.
    Television dreams of tomorrow.
    We're not the ones who're meant to follow.
    For that's enough to argue.
     
  4. NoFap punk, what an interesting idea. Not at all familiar with punk, but perhaps some of the feminist punk bands would have something to say about it?
     
  5. dedManfapping

    dedManfapping Fapstronaut

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    Agreed.Mostly.I fucking HATE porn and the vermin who produce it.I mean,a good road-dragging is better than these sub-human degenerate whore-masters deserve....but as far as blaming capitalism for pornography you might as well blame it for slavery,the drug trade,rap music,war,ect. It is what it is.As long as a medium of exchange is used for goods and services in a competitive arena then you will get exploiters and the exploited.It has been proven that Communism cannot work in the long term and remain stable.As soon as you run out of other people`s money communism collapses under the weight of it`s own top-heavy over centralized bureaucracy so it`s not a real viable alternative.Neo-fascism solves many of these problems (by nationalizing all privately owned banks,corporations,ect) but Western Capitalism has clearly demonstrated that it will not allow fascism to exist on the same planet with them because they cannot compete with a fully mobilized and industrialized country.We went to war over that once if you`ll recall so that rules out fascism.The various radical subcultures (hippies,punks,libertarians,silver shirts,ect,ect,ect,) that have popped up over the past century offer nothing realistic to replace these systems,and usually die out either because the founders leave (or are imprisoned) or because of poor leadership or no leadership at all. So unless you have a better idea,that leaves us Capitalism :)
     

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