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UK Government will not block porn

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Indurian, Oct 16, 2019.

  1. I agree. Kids esp teens are very rebellious. They’ll do the exact opposite of what their parents tell them. And bc there parents tell them not to do something then that’s exactly what they want to do.
     
  2. People are making a great deal of money from P. Pornographers don’t have any morals so what do they care where their cash flow is coming from as long as the money keeps flowing.

    You’re right. They are now banning the sale of flavored tobacco for vaping bc teens are dying. As soon as “the good kids from good neighborhoods” started dying they were banned almost immediately.

    Something had to replace the income they lost from cigs and outrageously overpriced alcohol no one wants to buy.

    I saw a documentary that said that the P industry kept Hollywood afloat during the ‘70’s. The major studios were hemorrhaging money so they got involved with the booming P industry in one form of another.
     
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  3. LavaMe

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    I agree, banning or controlling porn would reshape the market. Reshaping it so it isn’t available on any and every internet connection is a good thing.

    One reason pornography is in such demand is because of its availability. Marketers know how to create demand for their product. If people faced serious prison sentences for producing and making available porn then it would be less available.
     
  4. LavaMe

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    Great point. Within weeks of vaping possibly being harmful states are banning it. Internet porn has been harming people for twenty years and they do nothing. I notice that about the only absolute freedom we have is to view porn and do other depraved sexual acts or heinous acts that result from sex. Other than that governments can and do ban things. One would be wise to deeply ponder why it is moderns will ban everything but things related to sexual pleasure.
     
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  5. Look up alcohol prohibition in the US, and read up on some history. Your words rime so close to what was proposed and implemented.
     
  6. Psalm27:1my light

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    The problem isn’t what you do at home so much. My son was first exposed at 11 when he was at a friends. He came home and told me because I had already talked to him about porn. The mom didn’t think it was a big deal. He was then exposed again at my sisters when one of the other kids had it on their phone. Then again, once he entered high school, he and my daughters said it was everywhere. Many parents are in denial or plain don’t think it’s a problem
     
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  7. LavaMe

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    Should child porn not be illegal since making things illegal only drives it underground? I’m well aware of alcohol and drug prohibition. I don’t agree with alcohol prohibition. That isn’t because I don’t think the government should absolutely never prohibit anything. It is because I don’t think it is a wise thing to prohibit for various reasons.
     
  8. romeolima

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    But a UK wide blocker isn't going to stop that from happening, as I said children will come into contact with porn. If it is blocked by whatever means by age restrictions etc. then someone somewhere will be downloading content and distributing it. In my day a porn mag would get passed around, these days it will be flash drives.

    As you say many parents are in denial, or are just don't care, or as I have said hope that the government will solve the problem for them, or if not will have tried and failed and therefore it the governments fault and not their own.

    It sounds like you have done well in that you son felt able to come and talk to you about it when he was exposed, I hope that I will be able to educate my children to be in a similar position.
     
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  9. TheForsakeen

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    you havent been in the dark web for a while i can assure child porn is still strong there,also what make you think gambling is illegal in the us plus unless you forbid cigarette and alcohol if they want it minors will get it.
    Its not like anyone is forcing people to watch porn at gunpoint and dude no one want to destroy society people just want to make money.
     
  10. vocalfry

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    True, but it can restrict distribution, accessibility and thus new recruitment.
    How many of us would ever have developed some of the issues we have, or perhaps, have them worked into the extents and quite what they became, with out access to porn and for some extremes of it.

    On the other hand I see an argument for free expression and association. Also for smaller government, thus less restrictions.

    So the answer I can see is best supplied by Joesph Priestly, in that he wouldn't deny to his students any vice, but he would assure they were well acquainted with its price.
     
  11. Exactly. Smoking cigarettes is one of the worst things you can do to yourself health-wise. But they are legal, as they should be. On the plus side, most public schools educate children on the dangers of smoking. And they can choose to ignore said education and smoke anyway! That is a liberal democracy.
     
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  12. mattyjsy

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    Smoking is legal because tobacco companies heavily lobbied political candidates and funded biased scientific studies that concluded smoking was healthy because it reduced stress, now people are addicted, it's part of our culture and the government makes billions in tax revenue from it that they cant afford to lose, so it remains legal. If you're going to use government level corruption and public deceit as an example of why porn should be freely and instantly available to our children i really dont know where we can go from there.
     
  13. Wow, I didn't know I was that powerful!
     
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  14. mattyjsy

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    Lol *and public deceit as an example
     
  15. I didn't use deceit as an example. I compared porn to another consensual legal activity with health risks, to demonstrate that the burden is not on the government to ban things that we think are bad, but on parents and schools to educate people to make better decisions.

    I don't think kids can buy from porn shops. And with internet porn, you need to give the kid a laptop/phone and he has to type it in for himself, assuming that the sites aren't blocked. If I was a parent I'd make it difficult for my child to access porn, but that's not the government's job. If he knows it's wrong he'll stay away from it. But we aren't doing our job to explain to our children that it's wrong. You don't get rid of bad behaviors by making them impossible to do (that's ridiculous), but by incentivizing people to reject them in favor of good behavior. This is literally the gun argument.


    When you ask the government to take on the role of mommy and daddy, that's communism. Now, you might be able to convince me that an age gate be mandated for all porn sites, but I don't think we can restrict it any more than that. But "Porn is bad, BAN IT!" is not going to work. You're just creating another iteration of the war on drugs.​
     
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  16. mattyjsy

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    Mhm, just out of interest, how do you plan on educating 15 year old boys not to look at naked ladies? With regards to deceit, I wasn't saying you were being deceitful, but the tobacco companies were and that is the only reason smoking is legal. With regards to kids having access to mobile phones and laptops, I'll wire you my months wage if you can find me an example outside of amish communities where kids dont have access to these things. I recognize what a douche I'm probably coming across as, but I just get so angry that this menace has not only been introduced into our lives, but is propped up by media and science as a "healthy" pastime, and how western governments do not care at all that this epidemic exists. I'm not saying ban porn, but for there to be absolutely zero regulation around this industry is reckless. We have age restrictions for the sale of tobacco, and most things of that nature. It makes no sense that a kid cant get into a cinema on their own to watch rambo, but all the porn ever made is instantly accessible all the time, for free and is in their pocket. Its madness
     
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  17. Western governments are Satanic, this is why they force porn on people.
     
  18. mattyjsy

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    Define satanic
     
  19. Means these western governments are controlled by a supernatural force called Satan, the Evil incarnate, the enemy of God.

    And going against Satan without God is like going with a knife to a pistol fight.
     
  20. Yeah I'm fine with age restrictions if we can find a reliable way to implement them.
     

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