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How did you heal your ED/PIED?

Discussion in 'Porn-Induced Sexual Dysfunctions' started by countdown, Aug 8, 2019.

  1. quit@porn

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    I am abstaining from porn now for 12 days. Although yesterday was really tough day.. . . But for ED issue do we have to overcome fapping also? I am going to set target for it from day after tomorrow (15th day) since it's seem to be thought at start.

    Please give your valuable experience
     
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  2. quit@porn

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    My best advice to you would be 100% comitment to No PMO process. Period. Please don't edge because that is worse than relapsing! Every each of us need different period of time to heal, many variables included. Conclusion: be on nofap, trust the process and you are going to be cured 100% NO DOUBT! Maybe I am cured but don't knoe becauze I haven't tested with a real girl but there are indicators that I am maybr healed. Wish you luck![/QUOTE]
    I am abstaining from porn now for 12 days. Although yesterday was really tough day.. . . But for ED issue do we have to overcome fapping also? I am going to set target for it from day after tomorrow (15th day) since it's seem to be thought at start.

    Please give your valuable experience
     
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  3. dzigi

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    Absolutely!!! Not watching porn is not enough 100%, no doubt! I haven't watched porn for like 7 months, but I need to stop fapping. Few days ago I relapsed on day 48. Many signs of improvement. So my advice how to cure PIED is Nofap 100% dedicated to that process and you are going to be healed. I just can't tell you how long it is going to take because there are many factors included, so every each one of us healing process is different but it is going to happen eventually just cut out masturbation. Wish you lucK@@
     
  4. quit@porn

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    Every body advice for to stick tovthe process of PMO.. .

    But what exactly is the process? ?
    I am using nofap.. Best thing about it is the forum and like minded people. ..

    But basically I am doing it on my own resolve to give up?

    Can you please tell me what exactly is the process? ?
    Or else give me the link so that i can read.. .

    Expecting response
    Thank you
     
  5. dzigi

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    Nofap process means not watching porn and not touching your dick. it is simple. By doing that you brain will reboot from all these nasty pixels and your sensation will be back down there. Also what I would recommend you to do is cold shower , workout ( at least at home ) and try to eat healthy food. I hope everything is clear now?
     
  6. quit@porn

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    Got it bro.. . .
     
  7. rah2790

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    Hey brother, we are about the same age, and I'm also married, so am not staying away from sex with my wife. PiED and death grip syndrome are two of the reason I began doing this. I can give you my experience so far. Before I started I could get it up during sex, but I couldnt always keep it up, and sometimes it would only be like 75 percent hard. I also lost a good deal of sensation from death grip. Me and my wife had sex like 10 days in, and it was very positive. It's a small sample size of once, but I did stay hard the whole time, and I did feel a little more then I used to. I am hopeful that since my PA didnt begin until my mid 20s and I seem to have caught my PIED early may give me a fast recovery. I dont feel "fixed " but I do feel like I'm heading in the right direction.
     
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  8. PoloMarco

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    Hey @Daxos

    I was in a flatline about 1.5 months ago, and started to do kegel exercises to help me get through that. I also take ginseng and l-arginine for bloodflow. The results have been really created.

    So you had advised to stop doing kegel exercises? How are you maintaining strength in that area? Just lowering the amount of kegels that you're doing. What other techniques have been helping you?

     
  9. Daxos

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    Our PMO habits and addictions probably already strengthened your PC muscles. And there are more safe ways to train PC muscles. Running and fitness for example. You should obly do kegels if your PC muscles are too weak. Then it is a good exercise. But if you have normal or tight pelvic floor muscles tonality, kegels will f*ck up your pelvic floor balance. It did to me, and it gave me chronic pelvic pain syndrome
     
  10. Tibo87

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    Praise be!

    It is good to see some good info like this one.

    No PMO for 30-60 days is a good one (depending on the level of your addiction).

    Ultimately, if you want to get rid of ED/PE, you have to learn how to control your level of arousal and your pleasure zones. You can do that during sex, but it will be easier and quicker if you add mindful masturbation to that.

    Belly breathing is a huge one as well, especially to stay present and to focus on your own sensations and pleasures.

    To repeat what others have said (and what worked for me): a healthy lifestyle, a good sleeping pattern (to reduce stress), a workout discipline (with stretching in the evening, especially hips and lower body), a kegel regimen (adapted to your needs) and sex practice (yes, the more you do it, the better you become at it).
     
  11. modernstore99

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    Here's how to stop (not cure) PIED, the way I did it.

    1. No PMO Streak
    Do the 90 days with no PMO or other stimulation. Porn is anything that is not a real woman in front of you that arouses you, Masturbation is any action you commit that sexually pleases/stimulates you, and orgasm is an obvious one. Don't do any of these in any way. Also, do not receive any sexual/sensual pleasure from anyone. All of these must be avoided. Your brain needs to "forget" what it thinks about sexual stimulation. Even if you are involved in positive sexual activity, your brain will still be able to hold onto the memory of P and M. You need to refrain from all these activities. I don't know how long you have had PIED though, so your streak may need to be longer than 90 days.

    1.5 Get a girlfriend (Optional but recommended step)
    Get a girlfriend during your streak. Before you guys have sex (prob after a few dates or something), tell her pretty much exactly this:
    "Hey so for a while I've hard a tough time getting hard and finishing during any sex stuff. It's from watching too much porn and masturbating when I was younger. It really sucks. I'm trying this new thing that's supposed to help me get over it, but I can't receive any sexual pleasure for 3 months, and I have x days left. I can still do anything to you though ;) that doesn't involve my dick. I know it's kind of a lot to drop on you, but if we're going to be together you should know, and for x days sex and anything with my dick is off the table."
    Any woman who has any respect for people will say "hey that's ok". If she likes you at all I bet she'll stay with you, especially if you tell her you'll go down on her a lot (which I think is very beneficial for "re-teaching" your brain in the long run). If she says she wants to have sex and doesn't want to do be in a relationship like that then you can't blame her, sex is tight, but that's kinda low imo; if she just wants sex, she probably wasn't being honest about why she wants to date you. I cannot imagine a situation where she makes fun of you or tells other people; if she does, something terrible will probably happen to her in the future because of some other terrible thing she said to someone.
    Having someone with you while you're doing this is good for emotional support, but also to stay goal-oriented; not only are you getting rid of PIED for yourself, you're getting rid of it to make her feel good. Cuddling and kissing and going down on her is a great way to "re-orient" your brain to non-PMO sexual pleasure; when you go to have sex, your body will already be used to the touch, smell, taste, and body of a woman, and you'll likely have more pleasurable sex. This leads to step 2...

    2. Have sex immediately when done with streak
    This is the most important step. After 90 days (this is the length for classic cases of PIED, if you've had it for 6+ years you might need to go longer), and if you did the streak correctly, your brain is basically a blank slate. Whether you start having sex or PMO, your brain will take it as the norm and become accustomed to it. Having sex begins to "re-wire" your brain towards real women and real sex; real sex and women isn't the natural "setting" for pleasure, and is why so many people get stressed and can't perform their first few times. It is of the utmost importance to have sex and rewire your brain so you do not fall back into the trap of PMO; this is why it's good to get a girlfriend during the streak so you can get right into it. It's best to also have sex when you feel good about it. I wouldn't stop your streak early, but if it's the day your streak ends and you're really stressed or tired, don't force it. Do it on a day you feel comfortable. You'll probably be stressed about performing or getting hard, and tbh you probably won't do well in either. Your partner will be excited to be having sex for the first time in 3 months (or maybe even ever), so don't worry about pleasing her. And remember that even if you can't penetrate or feel pleasure from sex yet, it will eventually happen, but will also still feel very good. Unless you're stressed beforehand, start having sex. Don't worry about getting hard or pleasing her, just try to have fun and enjoy yourself.

    3. Keep having sex
    When you have sex for the first time, you probably won't have a great boner, and if you can even penetrate, it probably won't feel great. Like I said above, your brain is a blank slate, and doesn't totally know that this woman in front of you is supposed to feel pleasurable.
    If you can't get hard, focus on kissing her, touching her body, feeling her warmth, going down on her, etc. Don't just focus on her though; if you focus too much on her, you'll lose interest and your libido, and that's not what we want. The best acts are ones that make both of you feel good, like side by side kissing and cuddling. Do what feel good for the both of you.
    If you can get hard enough penetrate (don't be stressed if you can't), try it out. It probably won't feel good for you or her, but still do it. I think the best positions for getting back into it are missionary (good eye contact, lots of touching/kissing, and your penis fits really well inside her this way), spooning (also intimate, lots of body contact, feels very tight too), and if you're pretty hard, having her lie on her stomach and coming in from behind feels pretty good too. I think missionary is the best because your dick probably won't feel that great at first, but kissing her, feel her, and the grinding motion often makes you more excited and hard, which makes it easiest to feel pleasure.
    Don't chase an orgasm, for either of you. It's really good to focus on her and her pleasure, but if you're losing your boner, maybe switch to something else; remember we're teaching your body that sex is good. If you focus too much on cumming or how fast you're thrusting, you'll start losing your erection and excitement pretty quickly. Just focus on having a good time every time. Do what feels best, not what you think will make you cum fastest. Cumming won't happen because you're trying to cum, but because you're doing what feels good.
    Every time you have sex, you will get a little harder and it will feel a little better. It will probably be 1-2 months of having sex 1-2 times a week before you are feeling maximum pleasure with a maximum erection. Don't worry though; every time you have sex, do what feels good, and it'll feel great.

    4. That's it. This is exactly what I did. Went from not being able to get boners while in bed with women to railing my ex-girlfriend with a penis so erect I can barely get it down for doggystyle. You can stop your problem. You just have to know how to get rid of PIED, use the streak, have sex, and keep having sex. The website Your Brain on Porn has much better information imo; you should check it out. Anyway good luck, ik you can do it
     
  12. Supination

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    May i ask why and how effective are cold showers?
     
  13. I never suffered from ED but I can say that on 90+ days streak my erections were rock hard, like I have never experienced such strong ercetions before.
    So I can guarantee that your erections will improve:)
     
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  14. Bulk-er

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    Hi @Daxos great post about pelvis floor issues and i m glad i found it cause I ve lately read a lot about pelvic floor connected to erectile dysfunction problems.
    Everytime i read about people advicing to do kegels to dolce ED I wonder how it would be possible if Ed comes from Pmo as we disccus here in this community.
    I ve always been an obsessive fapper, edging for hours every day and night.... Hours on hours every day I mean.
    Before of having the first episode of dead numb dick... I had for months and still have problems to start a pee. At the beginning i undervalued it but when u go to the toilet to pee and u cant pee unless u push it hard is not normal. When i finish to pee i always feel i ve other pee ro expel and infact i always milk with my end my bulbospongious muscle to fully empty all the lee. Well the next consequences weeks after was having my dick completely shriveled, smaller, turtled into my pelvis, testicles rised up and all this after AN ejaculation, maybe the second or third of that day and after several hours of fapping and edging but in that week my erection were already not the best and were the first time in my life with a no rock hard erection.
    After that ejaculation my flaccid penis is no longer like before.... So my erection cant be the same as before and infact are shitty erections that i can keep strong just with death grip and whatching porn.
    The point is ( and i always underline it) my bulbospongiosus muscle is flat, empty instead of being engorged like a pump. Before of getting this problem i always had my penis getting hard easily even just sitting down on something that would push my bulbospongiosus muscle that give all the blood to the external part of the penis. If my understanding are correct the pelvic floor muscle are there, at the perineum between the a us and the testicles. I feel empty and flat there while before was engorged as i stated before and when the penis was erect, the bulbospongiosus was engorged and large like a tennis ball.
    I also got constipated, most of times its very hard for me to get a poop easily, but maybe this is also due to my horrible diet, but anyway from time to time when i manager to evacuate well at the toilet i feel my flacid penis healthier, hanging loose, not turtled in, i see it fuller, not drained and having an erection is not as difficult as when my flacid penis is shriveled.
    All these things always made me think that my Ed is also due to a tight pelvic floor as a consequence of a over masturbation, over ejaculation, over edging with no rest for my penis for years and years.
    As commonly happen i also got anxiety with the time passing cause Ed is smth that take ur mind too, so I often have a short breath, but all this came after i got Ed.
    Another inconscious thing i always do is holding my abdomen, u know like to look more fit, so most of time i spend my day with my abdomen contracted. I believe this is not the best both for a healhty breath and for the pelvic floor function.
    All this should give a tight pelvic floor so i would need to practice reverse kegel and diapharagmatic breath. Would u confirm this in your opinion?
    I completed my second week of hardmode rebooting and i m aware is smth good to do, but I always thought my problem has more to do with hydraulic mechanical stuff as pelvic floor issues suggest, more than addiction on porn also becaude i was fapping many years before of watching porn every day and then i got glued on porn cause I was using to Force my erections after i got my problem.
    I feel i could learn some precious info from you about this topic for what i ve read on your posts
    Thanks in advance
     
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  15. Daxos

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    Yeah this sounds a lot like pelvic floor issues. I had many of your symptoms as well. My urine stream was very weak, had to wait a while to get the peeing started, had a contracted flaccid penis and more. It sounds like your pelvic floor is overworked. Buy the book ''A headache in the pelvis''. This book will teach you everything you need to get better
     
  16. Bulk-er

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    Yes I know about the existence of that book, I managed to read something and it was already in my buy list, even if as u said or someone else said, pied has many symptoms of other deseases connected to Ed, so I m trying to know much more first from men who had similar issues to mines.
    NoFap and not using porn communities are more focused on the addiction to porn that give problems in real life when it s the moment to have sex with real womhn.
    In my case I simply know with out touching, with out looking at my penis if I ll be able to have a satisfying erection and most of the days I know i would t be able to have a normal erection cause I already feel my penis shriveled and trapped, chocked inside my body.
    Well maybe is also pied, but from what i read online, my situations it has more to do with some hydraulic stuff as I previously mentioned.
    That book talk about hyperactive pelvic floor as opposte of a weak one and I ve always been sure it was more contracted than weak due to over masturbation.
    I would like to know by you if u have solved or solving right now the problem if u went to a chiropractor, if have found trigger points in ur muscle and if are there any practises they advice to do at home to relax the pelvic floor.
    I know about the diaphramatic breath, but I m curious if there is something more effective that really give a tilt to the muscle to soften.
    Is that sitting down on a tennis ball a valid practice?
    Anything else u would advice? Both external and internal I mean.
    I know chiropractor also use the biofeedback.
    I d just want to do something by myself first in order to see if I feel some changes.
    Another thing I d like to ask u.
    Some times, but very very rarely, happened to me to get my flaccid penis healthy back like it was before the problems.
    I don t know why, but sometimes i thought was due to the end of a long period of costipation and when i managed to fully empty my bowel, i feel and i see my flaccid penis engorging and hanging loose, like the head of a turle getting out. Well the day after i manage to have good erection, to have sex, to break the wall with my penis. Unluckily... Stupid me I abuse so much of that magic condition with tons of ejaculations by Pmo and paid sex that i get my penis dead again within few days and the hell start again for months, months and months and as i didnt know anything about the issue of over masturbation i always tried to cure my dead penis forcing erection anytime i had the chance to stay alone in front of PC, that in my case, means many hours per day. What a mess.
    Some info from u would be much appreciated, cause most of other posts here helped just my knowledege about how harmful porn is, but I feel my problem belongs to another "league"
     
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    Ok, I will share my entire routine on how I am fixing my pelvic floor issues.
    Do these stretches EVERY DAY => https://drsusieg.com/blog/6-essential-stretches-to-ease-pelvic-floor-tension
    https://www.womensrunning.com/2016/...ion/4-moves-loosen-tight-pelvic-floor_68788/3
    Be aware of your breathing. Try to do belly breathing 24/7. The more you do it, the better
    Manage your stress levels. Try to never stress again
    Pick up running. Especially in the forest. That is hands down the absolute best
    Take warm baths to relax the muscles in the pelvis. You can also take a heated bag or thermal bag and put them inbetween your legs in bed
    Take L-arginine and L-citrulline to improve circulation. This will help with healing of sore tissues in the pelvic area
    Do meditation. This will help relax the entire body. Many people with pelvic pain have pelvic pain because their stress is being stored in the pelvis. So learn to relax your entire body

    I am still solving my problem right now. I've had this problem for 6 months already. It's not easy to fix and it is hard to do all the exercises every day.
    I personally never did the sitting on a tennisball. This sounds too dangerous to the perineum to me. Do it too often or too hard and you could damage your perineum. You really don't want that
     
  18. Bulk-er

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    Thanks @Daxos

    As I ve already noticed, 90% of pelvic floor online content is focused on women issues, so even if pelvic floor is made or muscle both men and women have, there not always be what u re exaclty looking for if u are a male with erectile dysfunction due to pelvic floor tightness. That said I found part of the left 10% online content that talk about males issues.
    I know there are many and different symptoms people can feel having a tight pelvic floor. I just want to underline I don t have any pain. One of those links talk a lot about pains due to pelvic floor problems: well, not pains at all in my case, while many other symptoms yes... I have them.
    However, u re also right i ve to focus on my breath 24/7 cause I also realize my breath it s really messe... And gives lots of other issues
     
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    @Daxos Dribbling after urination and I mean I've to "milk" a bit my bulbospongious muscle to fully end to pee....would be a symptom of a weak or tight pelvic floor in your opinion?
    As I said I think I've a tight pelvic floor: I also have a bad anxiety, so I often feel that fight or flight symptoms...like afraid of something that make ur body freeze, not in the meaning of being cold, but like when u're scared of something...so...in those case the penis turtle in....and time after time can tight the pelvic floor, so I think I've more a tight pelvic floor than a weak one.
    I hesitate taking a pee and I'm constipated...and I read are symptoms of tightness, while having a weak pelvic floor means ....not being able to control and to resist before of going to the toilet; but what about the bulbospongious muscle for people sitting too much on their chair, and still sitting masturbating and edging for hours? it can weaken the pelvic floor or it can harden it making it tight?
    Something that would give me some short term hopes, a kind of small goal to reach, would be feeling my bulbospongious muscle engorged when my penis is flaccid;
    having a bulbospongious muscle alive, engorged mean having a fuller flaccid penis and lead to normal and spontaneous erections, so that is no longer needed a death grip on the penis to hold the blood inside.

    What if the bulbospongious muscle of obsessive fappers is weak? I feel that doing reverse kegels wont work to make it more active even it I think I've tightness, but at the same time I'm also afraid to do normal kegels, cause they give the same feeling of when I was edging fapping for hours and in the end ejaculating, so that muscle should be exhausted.
    But exhausted does mean is it weak or tight?
     
  20. Daxos

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    I have the dribbling and the milking too. I have had a very tight pelvic floor. Seems like you have the same. Anxiety is also contributing to a tight pelvic floor a lot. Everyone stores stress in a different way, and we probably stored all that stress in our pelvic floor. That is probably how I got a tight pelvic floor. Constipation is also a sign that your pelvic floor muscles are too tight. You do not need to worry about the bulbo or ischio. They might be overworked, but you need to give them a rest and they will be fine. Remember, they are just like any other muscle. You just need to give them time to heal, and most importantly, relax them so they can heal in the first place
     

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