Skeptical but open-minded user who wants to discuss the level of addiction

ZoomV9 · Nov 18, 2019

Hey guys!

I've been aware of NoFap for a while, probably a good 2 years. I didn't pay much attention to it, was pretty skeptical about it due to reading the Reddit posts and all and I realized that there was an actual website for it, so I peeked in and thought that people here seem to be a bit more chill/level-headed compared to the people on the subreddit.

I don't know if I am midly, moderately or severely addicted to porn, but I will list dot points and all I request is a level-headed discussion, I don't want people to fire off saying "oh nah fap bad fap bad". If there is one thing in life that I know, is that as humans, we can do too much of something and that too much of something can be bad for us.. So in real terms, we as individuals are to blame, not anything else.

My list:

Have browser in the background while playing games etc, one tab maybe two loaded with porn images. Would switch back and forth here and there and edge, and would do that until the end of the night, but I'm not constantly edging.

Feel like doing sexual acts with men even though sexually I identify as straight, whenever I look at a man i feel nothing at all, except when I watch porn, that's when those urges/thoughts come out.

Would berate myself after each time I watch porn and masturbate, not necessarily call myself names or make myself feel like crap, but more so along the lines of "Man, I just want the real thing, why do I keep doing this".

Realized that I have no random erections during the day, rarely get morning wood either unless I abstain for a couple of days, I only get erections during porn, maybe barely semi-erections randomly during the day.

Tried hooking up with guys who wanted to give me blowjobs on Grindr only to receive no erections, however the reason for this is because I'm sexually frustrated and not ready for dating/relationships with women.

I will also state that I am a 25 year old male, I don't really have an active social life, I only hang out with one friend majority of the time, sometimes I would hang out with a group but that would be very random. I don't go to the gym, I am a sedentary person.

Thanks for taking your time to read this and I am looking forward to discussing this matter with you, and thank you in advance for welcoming me!

drac16 · Nov 18, 2019

Welcome to NoFap, bro. I hope you enjoy your time here. Thank you for sharing your story.

Deleted Account · Nov 18, 2019

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OldSofa · Nov 18, 2019

Hi.

I've only been on here a week or so, so I don't lay claim to any profound knowledge.
I was at where you are in some ways, but was quite different in others. Some of the posters on the forums seem very extreme to me.

I will tell you my reactions, since you seem(?) to be asking for opinions.
- Are you really trying to hook up with guys, or is it that you just want to hook up, and guys are the most likely to answer the call? If you had the choice between a woman and a man, and both really wanted you, what would you choose? (you can even make them very different in physical attractiveness)
- I don't know how addicted you are. I'm not even sure knowing the official level is any good to you. Imagine if you were snacking on candy bars instead of PMO or random hookups - even if your post does not make you a sugar addict, you are clearly headed for diabetes (IMHO). Use the tools here that work for you, and get some control over your life.
- Speaking of control, it seems like a lot of posts here are from people with other very real problems, and the PA was their outlet. In another era they woulda been losing their money at the racetrack, but nowadays they can just do PMO. I use it to avoid fixing the many real problems I was/am having. So, if you are not addicted, then in addition to stopping PMO, what will you do with your extra time?

My two cents.

Courage and gratitude,
OldSofa

ZoomV9 · Nov 18, 2019

OldSofa said: ↑

Hi.

I've only been on here a week or so, so I don't lay claim to any profound knowledge.
I was at where you are in some ways, but was quite different in others. Some of the posters on the forums seem very extreme to me.

I will tell you my reactions, since you seem(?) to be asking for opinions.
- Are you really trying to hook up with guys, or is it that you just want to hook up, and guys are the most likely to answer the call? If you had the choice between a woman and a man, and both really wanted you, what would you choose? (you can even make them very different in physical attractiveness)
- I don't know how addicted you are. I'm not even sure knowing the official level is any good to you. Imagine if you were snacking on candy bars instead of PMO or random hookups - even if your post does not make you a sugar addict, you are clearly headed for diabetes (IMHO). Use the tools here that work for you, and get some control over your life.
- Speaking of control, it seems like a lot of posts here are from people with other very real problems, and the PA was their outlet. In another era they woulda been losing their money at the racetrack, but nowadays they can just do PMO. I use it to avoid fixing the many real problems I was/am having. So, if you are not addicted, then in addition to stopping PMO, what will you do with your extra time?

My two cents.

Courage and gratitude,
OldSofa
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Hey man it's aight, i'm looking for a discussion anyways and I will answer thoroughly

- The only reason I only ever agreed to meeting up with someone on Grindr is just out of pure sexual frustration. There are people saying "Oh man it's only a blowjob, i've sucked many straight guys off etc etc" But if I genuinely had the option, and I mean if i had one male and one female really wanting me and I wanted a partner(in this scenario), I would choose the girl 100% of the time. When I met up with men, I just wanted to get off, I felt no attraction I felt nothing and I wasn't even turned on but I wanted to get off at the same time.

As for what I'd do with my extra time, honestly.. I haven't thought about that yet. I mean, I did a short course to open my area of expertise to get a job but I'm waiting for my qualification to be validated and arrive, so if and when i do get a job, most of my extra time would be spent there. Maybe I might start dating again after working, I'm not sure, I have severe trust issues and it's pretty much disabled me from wanting to spend my time with a partner or spending my life in general with a partner. I mean the idea of it seems lovely but when it comes down to it? There's nothing more that I want than for them to fuck right off.

glasgow · Nov 18, 2019

There was a time in my life when I would be aroused watching male penises, and I would imagine myself being penetrated with them and all when I saw porn... as you, I consider myself 100% straight, when I see a man in real life, it's just... nothing. I though that I could be bisexual after all, but I think not... I do not see myself having a homosexual relationship at all.

But again, it is just an urge that appeared when I saw porn... at some point I concluded that maybe what I felt was the curiosity of feeling what the porn actress felt when taking the man penis, sucking it and all... you know, when I watch porn, even if I skip the parts when the man is alone and nude... I tend to give special attention when the woman is being penetrated and sucking, and doing whatever she does with the penis in front of her.

So, I think that what you feel is more or less the same thing, you got so used to see someone "enjoy" with male genitals that you associated pleasure with those actions... remember that sex is an act that you should experience in first person... but in porn you "experience it" in third person, and usually the one you see the most interacting is the woman, because it is her face what we see the most in the video.

Porn do really alter our perception of sexual interactions.

Suk · Nov 22, 2019

ZoomV9 said: ↑

Hey guys!

I've been aware of NoFap for a while, probably a good 2 years. I didn't pay much attention to it, was pretty skeptical about it due to reading the Reddit posts and all and I realized that there was an actual website for it, so I peeked in and thought that people here seem to be a bit more chill/level-headed compared to the people on the subreddit.

I don't know if I am midly, moderately or severely addicted to porn, but I will list dot points and all I request is a level-headed discussion, I don't want people to fire off saying "oh nah fap bad fap bad". If there is one thing in life that I know, is that as humans, we can do too much of something and that too much of something can be bad for us.. So in real terms, we as individuals are to blame, not anything else.

My list:

Have browser in the background while playing games etc, one tab maybe two loaded with porn images. Would switch back and forth here and there and edge, and would do that until the end of the night, but I'm not constantly edging.

Feel like doing sexual acts with men even though sexually I identify as straight, whenever I look at a man i feel nothing at all, except when I watch porn, that's when those urges/thoughts come out.

Would berate myself after each time I watch porn and masturbate, not necessarily call myself names or make myself feel like crap, but more so along the lines of "Man, I just want the real thing, why do I keep doing this".

Realized that I have no random erections during the day, rarely get morning wood either unless I abstain for a couple of days, I only get erections during porn, maybe barely semi-erections randomly during the day.

Tried hooking up with guys who wanted to give me blowjobs on Grindr only to receive no erections, however the reason for this is because I'm sexually frustrated and not ready for dating/relationships with women.

I will also state that I am a 25 year old male, I don't really have an active social life, I only hang out with one friend majority of the time, sometimes I would hang out with a group but that would be very random. I don't go to the gym, I am a sedentary person.

Thanks for taking your time to read this and I am looking forward to discussing this matter with you, and thank you in advance for welcoming me!
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Hello,
I think your severely addicted to porn. Your first point states the above. Well if your not sure tho there's a quiz on Your brain on porn to find out if your an addict or not. Edging is really bad as it might cause you blue balls so stop doing that, if you watch porn then cum otherwise don't watch.
As for the part of being sexually frustrated and trying with guys it's porn induced, porn twists your sexuality, for example, i have PIED(porn induced erectile dysfunction) and started NoFap, my brain tried to trick me into thinking that I'm turning gay when i abstained from porn for over 20days in the form of wet dreams ie i saw dreams where i had penetrative sex with guys. Fun fact, I'm straight and have never watched gay porn. My brain tried to trick me as I'd be scared which i was and would test by masturbating to porn.
So i think it's best for you to quit porn as these are all porn induced symptoms, all the best!

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