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Sex is Useless (The Philosophy Thread)

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by blademaster87, Nov 11, 2019.

  1. Windkick

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    I agree, we're essentially building up our strength and life vitality just to get into a relationship and waste it on a regular basis.
     
  2. PeskyAlien

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    Citation from
    http://www.hariomgroup.org/hariombooks_default/satsang/English/TheSecretOfEternalYouth.htm

    One of the disciples of Socrates (a great Greek philosopher) asked his teacher, "My Venerable Master, kindly instruct me how many times a house-holder can have copulation with his legal wife?"


    Socrates replied, "Only once in his life time"


    The disciple said," Oh my Lord! This is absolutely impossible for worldly men. Pray, kindly prescribe an easy path."


    Then Socrates said, "A house-holder can have copulation once in a year."


    The disciple replied, "O Venerable Sir, this is also a hard job for them. You must prescribe an easier course."


    Socrates then replied, "Well, my dear disciple, once in a month. This is suitable. This is quite easy. I think you are satisfied now."


    The disciple said, "This also is impossible, my revere master. Householders are very fickleminded. Please prescribe an easier course."


    Socrates said, "Twice in a month. But this will cause an early death."


    The disciple said, "This also is impossible, for they cannot remain for a single day without sexual intercourse."


    Then Socrates said, "Well said, my dear child. Do one thing now. Dig a grave and purchase a coffin and winding sheet for the corpse before hand. Now you can spoil yourself any number of times you like. This is my final advice to you."


    This last advice pierced the heart of the disciple. He thought over the matter seriously

    And so on...

    But did Socrates or any greek philosophers prescribed some effective excercises to overcome the sexual urge when it appears???
     
  3. Who wants to live forever ? One must not liberate himself before his purpose . If he does, he a scum .

    Fulfill what are you here for. Die. Live forever .
     
  4. DaveyCrockett

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    I hope that this post is some low-level trolling at best. Dude, the world isn't paradise on Earth, and that is because of sex.

    You'd have to read Read C.J. van Vliet's "The Coiled Serpent" if you are so pretentious to want philosophy, you will receive information infinitely better than philosophy if you read that. Van Vliet described sex as being like a serpent which came to earth, poisoning mankind forever, and that the lust for sex is the origin of evil. The author of "The Coiled Serpent" also describes that all diseases originate from sex, that it can be speculated that the severity of most diseases originates from venereal diseases. To be a philosopher requires total abstinence, you may learn that if you read "The Coiled Serpent".

    So read "The Coiled Serpent" by C.J. van Vliet, you can find the full book for free to read if you search for it online, it'll be one of the first results.
    Lastly, the Greeks were never "badass", and the only cool samurai who lived in recorded history was Musashi.
     
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  5. glasgow

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    Life is useless anyway (?)
     
  6. PeskyAlien

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    I have two philosophical question.

    What would happen with Human kind if we don't have orgasm during intercourse?

    And what would happen if women simply lay fertilised egg-or-two when want to have children.

    These questions are under the assumption that Humankind, have "obstacle" to multiply too much, in form of very long parental investment and life long commitment, as we already have.

    Would we multiply more than we multiply now, or would having no orgasm motivate us to not multiply very much, although the physiological process of procreation would be far easier?

    Of course there is yet another one tremendous obstacle / trap because if we multiply too much, there would be far numerous members of humankind and huge hunger and/or poverty. Far bigger than it is now. Far bigger than we could imagine.

    OK, would the poverty/hunger trap + having no orgasm + longa parental investment and life long commitment prevent us to multiply too much, or would we be too much irrational in sexual conduct despite thesw two tremendous obstacle / trap ?
     
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  7. In all seriousness this:
    sounds like something Diogenes would say.
     
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  8. glasgow

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    Oh boy, a lot of men on the internet saying that to have a relationship and raising kids is a waste of time... do these people know that in this life everyone has personal objectives and goals?.

    To give love to someone else, or raise kids that will contribute to the society after us is a waste of time? I know more stupid ways to waste the time, guys:

    - Playing videogames
    - Masturbating to porn.
    - Watching pop movies.
    - Partying
    - Chassing a ball
    - Working for a wage to spend it in... beer (?), scorts (?), games (?), skins in LoL (?).
    - Watching T.V.
    - Roaming the internets.

    These people are nuts, trying to justify their failures by judging experiences and reasons they do not care to understand, because they are too damn scared to fail at. And all of these just to maintain a mediocre lifestyle. "Hurr I do wat I want, im woke, i prefer to play gamez than to rais a kid".

    Sex is as useless as living. We live because we want, you choose how much to live, and you choose when to die if you want to.

    PD: No, I'm not saying that raising kids or having a relationship is obligatory... but why do these people need to disparage other people lifestyles just to justify theirs. I don't know, seems childish.
     
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  9. You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned, "fear of failure." This was similar to my high school life when it seemed everyone but me had a girlfriend or boyfriend. I thought something was wrong with me. Now that I've been married the longest among my peers, I get asked for relationship advice all the time even from other women.
     
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  10. blademaster87

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    I've come a long way since I created this thread. It was sarcastic, cynical, and bitter. These were all immature thoughts that I had created from frustrations I could not absorb. I remain in the same path, but I regret putting down what I just found weren't my goals. It's all right, all good, every man should be happy fulfilling their own destiny. Raising a family is actually beautiful, specially in the face of not being able to make sense of this life.
     
  11. blademaster87

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    Thank you, I will search for it.
     
  12. HERK

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    I think having kids is the main reason and motivation for the majority of humans, but what shocks me the most is how cruel the situation is , you are ripping the concioussnes from nothingness and bringing it into this world to suffer in misery , be granted with a body and get in debt until you die without anyone asking you if you want to live or not a life ,and at the end you have to fucking die ( the ultimate sufferin ).
     
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  13. keepitinmybriefs

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    Honestly? Sex is a lot of fun. It's a great way to bond with your partner. That level of physical intimacy with another person (or people, no judgment) is just fantastic. My problem, and the reason I'm on here, is not because orgasms are inherently evil, but because porn does weird shit to your brain and masturbation is just a massive timesink. If I had a romantic relationship, you can bet your ass I would be having sex daily, zero remorse.
     
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  14. Which dialogue is that? Seems like a hoax to me.
     
  15. PeskyAlien

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    I am still seeking the title of that dialogue. So fi you first came to know the title, please, kindly wrote it in this thread, or send it through conversation.
     
  16. I think society dictates what sex is all about. Neanderthals didn't mull over it, they just humped. Maybe even dead animals too?

    Point is, Being a civilized man or woman is where we are at now
     
  17. Infrasapiens

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    Snitches get stitches.
     
  18. SuperPowers

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    Huh?
     
  19. lolos

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    Don't try and philosiphize this. It's natural to want to have a sex, not only do we want it but we need it. Don't try and fight nature.
     
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  20. StonePlacidity

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    The winter seasonal depression and my normal slightly sadness and nofap flatline and depression from this thread made me think: WHY ARE WE ALIVE???


    to enjoy the beauty of life.
     

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