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Successful long term rebooters?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by saneagain, Jul 27, 2017.

  1. Gavalar09

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    Exactly this.
    Surely you'd think i was fully cured but it's like my body has completely shut down.

    You'd think by now I could get it up very easily but that just doesn't seem to be the case.
     
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  2. phwrancesco

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    that's quiete true i guess, as long as you don't keep relapsing over and over after that year. Like i said in some other posts, when i relapsed after a 700 and more days streak that didn't set me back at all and i went immediatly back on track!
     
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  3. Gavalar09

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    Did you have PIED? If so, how bad were your symptoms and when did you see improvements?
     
  4. HardWorkOnly

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    Most people say that after 90days you will be recovered,and i see that you guys have 500+days ,and still having problems why??,go to a doctor.And you said that after some relapses you started having problems again, why is this happening??,why you lose your progress because you orgasmed??
     
  5. Withdrawals take time, but honestly; you have been 8 months sober from porn only, I assume you have masturbated by fantasies at least. So in case of PMO, it is one addiction, that is related to masturbation by all its means. you should avoid it, that is the only way mate.. good luck
     
  6. phwrancesco

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    i don't have any problem, i have the healtiest sex life i could ever had.
     
  7. HardWorkOnly

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    hello i'm not talking only about you,please don't take it personal,i want to know why some guys that have pass the 90+ and still having flatlines,depression,ED??.This is a question if you know please answer
     
  8. Fenix Rising

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    It's because everyone has different PMO abuse history and possible underlying mental issues behind it. Someone who has been "addicted" to PMO for a year or two will have very different recovery trajectory compared to someone who has been addicted to daily binges for decades. A person from the first category could still fall into bad habit group (not really an addiction yet) and most bad habits can be broken within 90 day (studies say 66 days on average). A person from the second group however falls into addiction category and this is associated with physical brain changes that can't be undone in 90 day. Brain's scans studies have shown that it takes between 6-11 months of abstinence on average (and up to 18 months in the worst cases) to regrow reduced gray matter in frontal lobes of the brain when someone has been addicted for longer time. I can confirm from my personal experience (17y of PMO/25y of MO binges) that 6-11 months is the time period when "magic" happens and you become for the lack of better words more "balanced" person with regained self-control.
     
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  9. My theory it takes long time to heal because if you have been addicted since long time 1. you need good, progressive exercise routine that you can do safely every day to stimulate your brain's healing 2. long time healing caused by little fantasies that we can play anytime in our head, they like mini relapses, also we spend most of our time in the enviroment where we used to pmo, so we often become triggered, and these altogether slows down the healing.
     
  10. HardWorkOnly

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    Thanks for your reply,i'm 19 years old,i was watching porn since 12-13 old do you think i need 6+ months to recover??,last 2 years i got much more addicted i masturbated 5 times a day and watch porn.But for some reason nofap is not that difficult for me im on day 50+ and im ok with that,i dont feel strong urges,i think that im addicted since i masturbated too many times a day,but in my opinion someone who is really addicted cant stop that easy,so the question is am i that addicted to porn so i will need much more time to recover or i will be ok in 90??sorry for my stupid question,but if you can help me please tell me
     
  11. HardWorkOnly

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    I understand thanks for your reply
     
  12. Fenix Rising

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    I'd go with 90 days first and see how it goes from there on. Maybe you'll be able to avoid P without a problem after 90 days of reboot. If so great, but if you fall back into daily PMO routine, I'd consider doing longer abstention period as soon as possible. This way you won't loose all the progress you've already made.
     
  13. Niru4luv

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    That's fine but what do you say about prostate cancer? I mean such a long period of time without releasing... Did you ever consider about that? If you gathered any info about it could you please share it because that is what most concerning about and nobody is mentioning anywhere. Even doctors are also advising to release it as frequently as possible to avoid PC. So what is your take on that?
     
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  15. Fenix Rising

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    There is really no substantial evidence that abstention causes PCa. But there is high scientific consensus that that genetics, diet, lifestyle-physical activity play a strong role in PCa development. I'd worry more about eating a proper diet and being physically active every day than about ejaculation.

    Conclusion of the meta-study on the topic done in 2016: "
    Findings included relations among masturbation, ejaculation frequency, and age range as individual factors of PCa risk. No universally accepted themes were identified across the study sample. Throughout the sample, there was insufficient agreement in survey design and data reporting. Potential avenues for new research include frequency of ejaculation and age range as covarying factors that could lead to more definitive statements about masturbation practice and PCa risk.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27871956
     
  16. I can call myself fully recovered. When I started I was addicted to sissy porn, has been single for 2 decades and was unable to have an erection with another person let alone climax from normal "boring" sex. But after about 7 or 8 month streak I finally had my first orgasm with my new (current) girlfriend via hand job, and couple months later finally from normal, "boring" penetrative sex.

    A word of courage; I went through several flatlines and got them time to time even after I started to climax penetrative sex, but somehow I trusted that it was only temporary and kept going. I've been in flatline many times and it still freaks me out every single time. But I came through them and so will you. Don't panic. Have faith. Tomorrow you're one day closer to your goal.

    Now, year after what I've described... Hell yeah! I am fully recovered.
     
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  17. ironmaing

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    hey Mike. Inspiring story. So you didn’t O for 8 months? These flatlines after climaxing through sex, how long were you getting them before they stopped? I often get these week long flatlines after climaxing. I had sex 2 days ago, kinda forced it as I was in a flatline. I didn’t O and I feel so great right now. It’s like my brain is thanking me for not climaxing.

    My main issue right now (there’s always something) is that when I get aroused, I can only get about 70% erect. I then have to use an elastic cock ring to make it hard enough to have sex. After about a minute having sex, I get to 100%. But it’s annoying having to put that on.

    I’m also down to 25mg of viagra. Unfortunately my sex friend wants a relationship, where as I don’t as she’s too intense for me. I wanted to get to 0mg with her, but seems like I won’t have the chance...my dream is to simply have an arousal induced natural erection with no pills or elastic bands. I get plenty of healthy erections in my sleep...just not when it matters most :)

    interestingly, my erection strength and arousal time varies. What worked for you to perform best? Did you take anything? Or did you prepare for sex mentally?
     
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  18. phwrancesco

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    looks you're on the right path, especially for the 180 plus days streak!
     
  19. Thank you Brother. Glad I could help.
    Pretty much 8 months, yes. I honestly don't anymore remember how things went anymore, but I remember having several flatlines during that first year. Today I usually have to take 2-3 days rest between having sex, or I might not have strongest possible erection. Sometimes 1 day is enough rest and sometimes I might need to have 4-6 days between sex, but it depends very much how hectic and stressful my week is. As I'm an entrepreneur my days can sometimes be little bit too overwhelming and on those days I just know that I'm too stressed to even think about sex. But other than that, my flatlines were pretty much over after first year.
    I've noticed that to me sex with my spouse is so satisfying experience that I'm completely satisfied few days after orgasm. And I've also learned to accept that and not trying to force myself have sex too much. When it comes to sex, quality comes before quantity to me.

    I sometimes use cockring too, but to me strongest arousal comes with relaxation and getting in the right mood. They say that women had to be warmed patiently and men are ready to go when ever the need arises, but in my opinion that total crap. We men need also enough time to get in the mood just to be able enjoy sex to it's fullest. Quickies are fun thing to do every once in a while, but I enjoy sex more when I've had enough time to relax and get in the mood, and I've got everyday things sorted so they're not bothering my mind.

    I haven't used any boner pills so I can't comment on that particular topic.
    But it sounds like you might have some sort of performance anxiety and feel like you MUST perform every single time your woman wants sex. We men are not robots. We can't perform on a command and we either shouldn't require ourselves to do so.

    My best advice is just wait until your arousal rises naturally. As I mentioned earlier, everyday life tends to throw every kind of curve balls onto us, and if you have something else bothering your mind, you probably can't concentrate on your own enjoyment which can very easily kill your erection or at least halve it. It's like a half-dead erection. Kinda Zombie Erection. (sorry, I made myself laugh :D ).
    As I mentioned earlier, I try to mentally prepare for sex by clearing my desk and schedule, and reserve enough time to be in the present and in the mood with my spouse. I usually think before hand how much I love my spouse and how sexy she are, and that usually does the trick.

    Don't be too hard to yourself and don't put too much pressure on your performance, and I believe you'll be all good.
    I hope this helps and gives you determination to continue your great streak.

    - Mike
     
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  20. zimbardoo

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    Hi man! How is it going? Did you recover from PIED? Im 1 year in my reboot and still havent recovered fully. I mean, i havent been able to have successful sex with a partner yet.
     

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