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My Neighbors are getting Divorced

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by Veritech, Dec 3, 2019.

  1. Veritech

    Veritech Fapstronaut

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    This is a sad story, which is now a common story.

    The wife found the husband's phone. She found out that he was having a 6 month affair. The former couple has three young children.

    The husband obviously forgot to protect his phone in the the same manner that I currently protect my phone - password protect, delete cache, etc. I cannot imagine how he will explain the separation and his cheating behavior to his children.

    If I keep up my illicit behavior, I will eventually slip up and forget to cover my tracks. It is only a matter of time before I am discovered by my wife.

    Although I am not having or do I plan to have an affair; the same fate as my neighbors awaits me if I do not change my PMO and Escort ways.
     
  2. Nicko Stretch

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    But your counter says 65 days porn free?
     
  3. Get it together Not for you or your wife but for your child
     
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  4. Psalm27:1my light

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    You say your not thinking not ever plan to have an affair but have an escort problem? Um , what do you think an affair is because you are clearly having one with escorts?
     
  5. Veritech

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    As of today, I am 65 days sober. I am hoping to continue my NoFap journey to avoid the same fate as my neighbors.

    My point exactly. My family is important to me. I do not want to end up like my neighbors.

    "Affair" usually is understood as an ongoing relationship outside of marriage. Not so with an escort; which is essentially a paid hookup.

    Just to be clear, I am not trying to justify that a paid hookup with an escort is less of a marital violation than a 6 month affair.

    My point is that if I continue with PMO and/or pay escorts, I will eventually get caught and end up like my neighbors.
     
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  6. Psalm27:1my light

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    No, an affair is usually understood as a sexual encounters outside of your marriage. A one night stand is still an affair, seriously I think for most women they might move past an affair, but paying escorts? That’s an even bigger affront to me, not only the exposure to std’s, but using our money? Maybe ask your wife what she thinks, she may agree with you.
     
  7. Veritech

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    You are correct that the term "affair" means sex outside of marriage, so yes I am having affairs. I was simply trying to distinguish my behavior from the behavior of the husband neighbor for the purpose of my original post.

    One might argue that the "affair" is worse than paid escorts because a prolonged affair includes an emotional attachment that a session with an escort does not. Escorts also require condoms. Just pointing it out, not justifying or minimizing my behavior!!!

    The point I am trying to make is that there will be no more "affronts" from me. Any "affront", porn and masturbation, escorts, prolonged affair of any type of sexual activity outside of marriage destroys families and damages children.
     
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  8. GID2020

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    @Veritech. I hope you don't mind but I went back through some of your old posts to see what you've been writing about. It seems as though you have been on nofap since 2016 and that you discussed using escorts back then as well. I was struck by how often you would "relapse" (generally around the time of your wives period) and I wonder if you have ever had a discussion with your wife about your porn addiction? I haven't read all of your posts but from what I could see many did not include discussions with her.

    My point being that I'm not sure you ever will be able to be free,or truly,in your words, "sober" if you can't/won't tell her about this addiction. I'm guessing that you are afraid of what might happen if you do, but if you love your wife (as I'm sure you do) then how/why would you keep something like this from her?

    I can only really just say "Yikes" to that. I try to be as understanding as possible to everyone's stories on here but I do think that perhaps you are rationalizing the escort situation by comforting yourself with saying it isn't an "affair". I can see what you are saying about it not having the same implication as having a sexual and emotional relationship with another person outside of your marriage, but I would think that most people would agree that it is cheating on your spouse..at the VERY least. Call it whatever you want, it's not good. :(

    I'm sad that you feel you have to lie so much and that you feel you have to "protect" your addiction...you used the word "protect" 3 times when discussing your phone. 3 years..almost 4 on nofap, what do you think you've learned? Just that you need to "protect" your phone so your wife and family don't find out your secret? Must be a sad and lonely way to live. :(
     
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  9. EyesWideOpen

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    I'm confused. What are you sober from, exactly?
     
  10. Veritech

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    @Psalm27:1my light , @GID2020 and @EyesWideOpen

    I think that you are missing the point of my original post.

    The topic is not about affairs, escorts and protecting phones.

    What I am putting out there is that there are consequences to our actions. It is eyeopening to see the trauma that the husband neighbor has brought upon his family. I have time to change my behavior, he does not.

    It is more difficult to see consequences of infidelity; as compared to having a fellow drug addict overdose.

    I believe that I have changed my behavior. Since joining NoFap, I have changed from porn daily to streaks of two to three weeks of abstinence. I have a serious weakness around my wife's time of the month that I need to address. At 67 days free of PMO I have gone through two of my wife's periods without acting out.

    My goal is to overcome my compulsive sexual behavior whereby I no longer need to protect my phone.
     
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  11. EyesWideOpen

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    I am not missing your point at all. I see exactly what you are saying.

    I asked for clarification on what you are sober from because I didnt want to make any assumptions before I replied. Some people are only working on one thing at a time instead of everything at once. Your response was making an assumption about my question.

    It is great to see your progress, and you should be proud of yourself for what you have accomplished so far. However, you are still lying to your wife (and yourself) and severely damaging your marriage with your actions, locked down phone or not. There is a huge danger in the addict thinking of, "At least I'm not as bad as that guy," and leads one into a false sense of security.

    I'm sorry for your neighbor and wish you luck on your continued journey.
     
  12. Infrasapiens

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    My dad did the same thing. My parents are not divorsed but things will never be the same.
     
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  13. tntrf

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    Keep going
     
  14. SuperiorMan95

    SuperiorMan95 Fapstronaut

    Bro, you're married. Why are you PMOing? What is it that the PMO is helping you numb? We do it to numb pain and things like that. What are u running from? Identify it and work on it. I used to PMO a lot back when I was taking a very intense/hard course in school. Only when I realized I wasn't ready for it and dropped out of that class did I stop PMOing. Sometimes, you need to make a change. Is it your career? Is it your woman? What's going on that you keep escaping into the dark tunnels of Porn/Mo?
     

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