is masturbating without porn as bad?

Yes it is, 1. You will almost always fantasize when doing it. 2. It’s lustful behavior and pleasure seeking.

 

I'm trying to not be a slave to my feelings of wanting an over the top sexual relationship. I think I'd be happier if it just switched off in me, but it doesn't.

I constantly wonder if I could MO and still achieve that, but all I'm using it for is a relief of frustration which I guess is just as bad as any other addiction. Relieving the frustration doesn't resolve the root cause of it.

 

From my experience and in my opinion, no. But then again, I'm only trying to eliminate porn. People here have different goals whether they want to go without PMO or just porn alone. I'm actually quite good at moderating MO, but porn is a completely different story for me.

 

Masturbation is like a brother to porn. Can't live without visiting each other once in a while, so no, you will relapse at some point.