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What's worse? Longer streaks then a binge or shorter streaks and a single relapse?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by skaterdrew, Jan 13, 2020.

  1. skaterdrew

    skaterdrew Fapstronaut

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    I am just wondering what would actually be worse out the two of these?

    So say someone got a streak of 2 weeks and then went on a PMO binge that lasted an entire day, then got another 2 week streak and then went on a PMO binge for an entire day.

    Then say someone got a streak of a week and then PMOed for 10 minutes, and then got another streak of a week and PMOed for 10 minutes, then got another streak of a week and PMOed for 10 minutes, and then got another streak of 10 minutes.

    Which is worse out the two of these?

    It seriously comes across like some guys on this think long streaks are everything. They think complete abstinence is the only way.

    So your trying to tell me that if a guy who is addicted to porn and has PIED PMOed twice in an entire month for 10 minutes each time that this guy would see no improvements because of these two 10 minute relapses in the entire month?
     
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  2. TransmutationYoda

    TransmutationYoda Fapstronaut

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    You can watch porn, just don't orgasm to it ;)

    You need to dissociate orgasm from porn.
     
  3. Ronaldo Machuca

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    PMO'ing every other day or as you say after 2 days is worse as you aren't giving your body and mind enough time to heal and recover and become less dependent on the dopamine from PMO. Longer streaks are better obviously as your body healed and needs less time to recover. and it's likely you'll go a long streak again and your body will eventually become normal from fapping lets say once a month. If you keep relapsing every 2 days you aren't healing or recovering. Your causing more tolerance and it'll be almost too hard to heal.
     
  4. Kligor

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    Hi i will write my experience.
    Last time i relapsed that was 10 or 11 days ago i PMO after 269 days of no PMO.
    And i can tell you i feel almost the same like before relapse,now after 10 or 11 days i can tell that i feel same like when i was on high streak.During relapse first i have watched femdom for 30+ minutes then i turned it down,after few minutes i started watching again and them when i fired up O it was like shotgun blast,funny but truth.
     
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  5. Which is more important, a long streak or avoiding bingeing and getting back on track quickly?

    Both are important, but the latter is underrated. Always do your best to avoid bingeing and the chaser effect. And of course, aim for a "forever" streak. But if you slip, get back on track straight away.

    He said two weeks, not two days.
     
  6. Ezpz

    Ezpz Fapstronaut

    No, please don't give out this advice. Porn is the actual problem, masturbation and orgasm are secondary by far. Visit www.yourbrainonporn.com to check out why this is, the FAQ section is most helpful.

    To answer the original post, A binge is the worst you can do in all scenarios as it strengthens those PMO pathways. Its hard to say how much damage 10 minutes of PMO can do but i would say still a significant amount. I doubt any progression could be made PMOing 10 minutes a week.
     
  7. TransmutationYoda

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  8. Ezpz

    Ezpz Fapstronaut

    listen man, i get you are trying to help and thats cool. If this worked for you then thats great. You probably werent addicted.

    Giving this advice to someone with a serious problem is dangerous and can cause more harm than good.
     
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  9. Reverent

    Reverent Fapstronaut

    Why is this pole binary?

    Long streaks are always better.
    Not bingeing is always better.

    Short streaks are denial, you are only kidding yourself.

    Bingeing hyper stimulates the brain and undoes the little progress we make. You fry a lot of neuroreceptors in binging. Also it's emotionally a harder funk to get out of.

    Best of luck.
     
  10. bigboibez

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    I probably pmo every 7-10 days and make sure its only one O when i do. I am almost certain that i would be able to get it up with a real partner and have morning wood. Im trying to break through the cycle but i can tell you if you can build a good routine and reduce your pmo use if you can replace it with a real girl youll stop pmo just like that
     
  11. Ibnmorales

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    I believe that one should not watch porn( on purpose) or masturbate ,my beliefs are that if you masturbate you are not a man you are a boy in a man's body so to answer your question which is worse ? there is no benefit to either or.
     
  12. To me orgasm is the worst of the three(3) i.e pmo. But porn is most likely the cause of the other 2(mo). So it's best to stay away from the source.
     
  13. Tatar

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    U can ask any particular Q about Semen retention to me, I am a Brahmachari or a celibate for past 4yrs, and a would be monk. I am happy to help. In Hindu yogic culture we have these things from ages and I want to share the necessary knowledge to help others.
    Great initiative u guys have taken. I haven't lost a single drop of semen from past 2.5 yrs, no nocturnal emission, wet dreams, spontaneous ejaculation. There are various ways to master this quality of abstinence. Diet, thought, lifestyle etc are important factors. I am from India, I stay in Himalayan mountains ( not in forests ). I will surely help u out with any issue regarding SR, ask Q in reply.
     
  14. Alicia Unicorn

    Alicia Unicorn Fapstronaut

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    This is what a lot of people think but it's not true. Also, and more importantly, because porn teaches you to see others as sex objects, you will treat your 'real girl' like that as well. Is that what you want? it will not be a good relationship. So you need detox from that too. That may be the most important reason to stop watching porn!
     
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  15. Awedouble

    Awedouble Fapstronaut

    Check this out: A goal is an objectification.

    Including a streak goal.

    As a MEASUREMENT it is different, it would be one point in time where you are sizing up progress in a certain metric, but making it the goal is a bit like putting the cart before the horse.

    Graduating college is a goal. Putting in four years and x amount of units is a measurement.

    As for the original question, sure binges are worse because of the edging, but really anything that's short term is not very good. Amount of time is a myopic way of working with it. People can say that's the proof, but what you ultimately want to do is control and calm your mind. If you don't do that, maybe you don't even watch porn but you may THINK about sex, or can't stop beating yourself up after a lapse then you likely have lost sight of the goal.
     
  16. Ibnmorales

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    what
    What are the benefits that you have seen of semen retention exactly ?
     
  17. Deysonn

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    I think everyone's journey is different. In my opinion if you are addicted to porn then you need to avoid all porn period. If you are doing PMO for short a duration frequently and you are an addict you will eventually get to the binge stage cause your duration will eventually get longer. If you are an addict and you had a long period from PMO like several months and then you PMO for a short period this can make you feel like you are cured because you will realize how aroused you were and how good the O was. This can lead back to bad habits again and you end up losing all your progress. This I know from experience.

    My advice is not to try to rationalize using porn, you question suggest you are trying to find a safe way to keep porn in your life. If you are an addict, there is no safe way to do this. If your addiction was Cocaine and you were trying to get free would you be asking this same question. Probably not, you would be seeking to stay clean.

    The best advice I can give is simply to abstain from Porn, you may also want to avoid masturbation because for a porn addict this goes hand in hand with porn. From my own experience I resume using porn if I try to integrate masturbation back into my life. I eventually seek some form of sexually stimulating media and this leads me back to using porn as my desire for more illicit stuff escalates.

    Sex and orgasm with a partner only is best. This is what you should be aiming for. And if you mess up, get back on track asap!!
     
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  18. don'tlookbackinanger

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    the first option is a mess. stay away from it.


    now this may work for an alchoholic but i can't see this working for a porn addict.

    don't watch porn but masturbate when you need to ( do not abuse this either) and slowly remove porn and masturbation both.
     

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