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fap every month or 3months as reward ?

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by nfpexperiment, Jan 11, 2020.

  1. Captain!

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    Is masterbation bad? You don't think so?
    Here read this.
    https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?threads/6-years-clean-rebooting-as-the-best-remedy.135983/

    https://selfdefinition.org/celibacy/quotes/dhananjay-harm-of-masturbation.htm

    https://selfdefinition.org/celibacy...-marriage-truth-about-masturbation-part-1.htm

    https://selfdefinition.org/celibacy/quotes/vopus-gnosis-negative-effects-of-masturbation.htm

    https://selfdefinition.org/celibacy...-of-continence-part-1-opinion-vs-evidence.htm

    I hope you do well in rebooting and not trap to the slavery of masterbation and pornography forever. People can be free from it and take it out of their lives, there is a light outside that dark tunnel.
     

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  2. Whatever you think works for yourself. Just cut out the religious/dogmatic bullshit. Many abstinence ideas here are not based on reality, but driven by fear, guilt and the complete denial of any legitimate sexual pleasure beyond heterosexual monogamy.
     
  3. Captain!

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    Then why reboot if not fear of bodily symptoms, why you're here on nofap, oh come on, this all knowing hypocrasy shit again of an addict mind, justifying addictive behavior.
     
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  4. Captain!

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    Regarding harmlessness theories of masterbation, I will name an example, after seeing this everyone will know how to treat harmlessness theories. It goes like this: Two people come up to you to talk, one says that elephants are grey, the other says elephants are blue. The first person supports his claim with good arguments while the latter comes up with even better arguments, this is when you start to hesitate and don’t know who to trust because both sides have good arguments. In this moment, I will tell you a method and that is to go see yourself what color the elephant is! Reality triumphs rhetoric! Similarly, when it comes to rebooting, you can directly look for cases from brothers in suffering and study them, let them speak for themselves and discover the truth in them. Cases are the foremost precious resource, the reported conditions are the most real.
     
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  5. wow bro what a reply 10/10
     
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  6. semen retention is not an adventure, its a joruney so treat it as your lifestyle, you cant reward yourself with the only thing that is forbidden and thats releasing so please stop.
     
  7. Marvelgurl23

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    This is gonna be a problem because you won't catch yourself from stopping once you get the reward. Your brain is still in the phase of being addicted and giving it just a taste is enough temptation. This is not just a reward system it is a literal lifestyle you have to adopt for the rest of you're life if you want the real thing.

    This is how you teach yourself to go into your environment and interact with REAL women in the REAL world, conquer your fears, and to work on goals for your own self-improvement. A 3 month reward is just a step back from when you take a few steps forward. You can't hide behind a reward when you want the real thing. You have to generate the feeling that you earned it, otherwise, you don't feel like you're winning.

    When someone gets sober from drug addiction, do they tell themselves they will have a little bit of it so they feel better? Only if they want to go down another hole of addiction. This is just the same, my friend.
     
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  8. Don´t project your own problems on me or others. I am neither addicted to porn, nor was I ever. Porn just bores me now.
    I was not addicted to masturbation either, but I practised it a lot (like nearly every healthy male teenager) in my teens, before I had the opportunity of real sex. I agree that masturbation can become a very strong habit, but it´s still better to masturbate, then becoming sexual frustrated. That only leads to violence and aggression against others or even yourself in the form of depression. And sooner or later to repeating failure.

    My own motivation to practice NoFap is that I know about the value of using the sexual energy of the body to achieve my personal goals, instead wasting it for the very simple temporary satisfaction of masturbation. The taoistic ideas about this are useful and worth to be examined and practiced. But it´s also much easier for me to practice abstinence being over 40 years now. So, considering the strong sexual urge of most young men, I think it´s more constructive to practice allowness instead inducing shame and guilt by telling people horrible bullshit of all the potential dangers masturbation shall bring to them. We had this in the western world till the late Sixties of the last century, mostly reasoned in pseudoscientific, hypocritical moralistic ideas, all supported by Christian faith and churches. The Vatican is a very illustrative actual example how permanent sexual repression and frustration leads to child abuse and perversion among priests and religious men. They could use this restored sexual power too, if they just knew how, but their doctrines are driven by fear,shame and guilt.

    Oh, sure... and you are talking to me about "knowing hypocrasy shit" by rephrasing one of the most common simple buddhist analogies for dummies here? I don´t advice anyone to do as myself, everybody has to find his own way. But the cage of religious tradition, denial of sexuality, fear and guilt will not help anyone in the longer run. People will just end in failed marriages, divorces and other unhappy situations. They just become obsessed with sexuality like a starving person is obsessed with ideas of food.
     
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  9. nfpexperiment

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    Fap a certain way for example without too much fantasies or keeping it as minimum as possible and dont do death grip, goal is not to overstimulate your brain but less then the real world vagina.
     
  10. nfpexperiment

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    Overstimulating your brain happens with porn and death grip. Be carefull not to fap your nuts to destruction be gentle, some people damage their nuts by not being gentle.
     
  11. EmmyB

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    Orgasm releases dopamine. When it wears off you get symptoms. Depression, low energy, craving for another high. In males this takes several days to wear off, in females several weeks. It's like a drug addict going back for another hit after being clean and over withdrawal symptoms. Bad idea!
     
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  12. nfpexperiment

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    doesnt real sex also release the same stuff ?
     
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  13. EmmyB

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    Yes, which is why I don't see any point in anything short of hard/monk mode. Karezza is good, but not sex leading to orgasm.
     
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  14. Captain!

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    Nah so many talks and excuses, although this is online, you are still an addict of masterbation, reboot more.
     
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  15. I think the notion that masturbation could ever be some kind of "reward" needs to be queried. How is it a reward to abuse and debase yourself?
     
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  16. Good luck with your neverending "rebooting game".
     
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  17. nfpexperiment

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    how is real sex different ?
     
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  18. Well, casual sex isn't that different, except that instead of just debasing yourself you also debase another. I would say it was slightly superior to masturbation in that misery loves company. Lets not pretend that these behaviours are not nihilism with sexual characteristics, because they are; hence the feeling of emptiness that follows quickly upon their conclusion.

    If you're having sex in a loving, committed, respectful relationship, I can't knock that.
     
  19. Captain!

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    [QUOTE="rebooting game".[/QUOTE]
    U dont want reboot, see your a jerk, literally you jerk, and man you cannot stop that for the rest of your life, your dick will always be stroke for the rest of your life, and unfortunately it will be a lot more with your hands.
     
  20. gagate

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    He has a point though, most of sexual frustration comes from the mind, and unrealistic standards that society puts (like if you get women you are a winner etc)

    You are helping no young man in recommending "healthy masturbation" because it will spiral into a degenerative cycle, lust increases through enjoyment, this is proven over and over, temporary physical enjoyment comes with long term suffering both physical and mental, if one gets into healthy masturbation it will surely degenerate into something worse sooner or later, the rapists out there severely lack continence, we should all strive to become our best version of ourselves and healthy masturbation won't do
     

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