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Why does porn addiction so often end up in femdom/humiliation fetishes?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by john27, Dec 5, 2018.

  1. Ronaldo Machuca

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    Dude no, there are millions of people who don't have a fendom problem and eat those foods. you're just trying to find yourself an excuse for your fetishes. It's you whose the problem not food, tf not trying to be rude but thats just pathetic to blame food for your fetish problem. Admit it's you and overcome your fetish. As stated before Millions of people eat those foods, they live well and happy, have jobs, girlfriends, wives, kids, and are happy. You don't see them having fetishes? Why cause they're normal. I am kinda tired of people finding other things to blame other than themselves. Porn isn't the problem also. The problem is you are using it way too much. Millions of people also have these fendom fetishes and they're fine and happy with they're choice. So admit it's you and you'll change.
     
  2. fedmom

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    I'm not blaming food for the fetish. I'm saying certain foods can increase serotonin such as salmon but it still isn't enough to stop being turned on by femdom. 5-htp tablets might work as an alternative to swearing but I haven't tried them.
     
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  3. modernstore99

    modernstore99 Fapstronaut

    https://www.yourbrainonporn.com/rel...tion-and-habituation-in-porn-users-tolerance/

    Read the part about the goat with multiple sexual partners.

    When you cum to something new, your brain tells you that your spreading your DNA amongst a greater population, making it more likely your offspring will survive. This behavior is highly encouraged.

    After cumming to all sorts of different porn, many guys, often insecure, inexperienced, and socially inept, like myself, find sP to be the most stimulating and stick with it because it confirms their worldview on sex and themselves.

    After a reboot though, it's obvious for me that I was wrong about myself, women, the world, and sP. Sissies aren't a thing. I'm not trans or gay. PMO does not feel as good as sex with someone you care about. It's ok to have a fetish or not be super masculine and be excited by different sexual stimuli, but to find out what you really like, you have to successfully do the reboot, re-sensitize yourself to sexual and social encounters with real humans, and then explore your sexuality.

    Do this, and I guarantee that whatever you find pleasurable is not what you think is good while doing heavy PMO
     
  4. I think the fact of rejecting to touch or acknowledge your penis correlates w femdom
     
  5. StonePlacidity

    StonePlacidity Fapstronaut

    yes
     
  6. When you were a teenager you learned what sex and sexuality is, you did not have that understanding before. When you watch pornography in large amounts you continue to learn what sex and sexuality is.
    because pornography does not often show what we would consider normal sexual behavior, you begin to change your expectation of what sex and sexuality is and this opens you up to accept things on the fringes.

    When you point out that you do not enjoy sexual contact with your partner as much, to me its clear that you just altered your expectations of sex. It is not that you need those things to enjoy sex, its more of you learned that those things are normal things to do.

    You have to first of all define what you think good sex is, something you would be happy with on every level and would not be ashamed of. And then work on shifting your expectations towards that.
    Obviously you have to stop, masturbation, imagination and pornography use, and then you should focus on intimacy with your partner. Spend more time in intimacy than in sex, that means hugging, kissing, massaging, just being close together but not engaging in sex. This will help you realign more with what natural sexuality actually is.
    For example consider that having an orgasm is not absolutely required, when you have sex. At least for this period. This allows you enjoy the activity without doing everything you can to get to orgasm.

    On its own it will take a long time to recover normal sexuality, you have to actively show your body what normal sexuality is. And normal sexuality is more about intimacy, care, kissing, hugging, vulnerability and enjoying time with your partner than about penetration and orgasm.
     
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  7. People are telling you that they can not relate to what you are saying, because they see it as irrational fiction, and insulting one at that, they get upset but you seem not to notice that.
    Also why do we see anger and resentment instead of word of God coming from your mouth, if words of God is what you supposedly put forth?

    You can not combine reason and fiction, and in our modern times, that looks silly.
    I think religion is important because of foundational principles for moral behavior it imparts, in ancient times it was difficult to understand or explain why moral behavior was good, so tools like God and Satan were used, good and evil on stories and books. This makes things relatable and improved social life at times when cornerstones of reasoning did not even exist. Now we have complex behavioral understanding and neuroscience to lean on. Reasoning with use of Gods words is unreasonable.

    All you could say is that according to Bible, use of pornography in any form is bad and it has been this way for thousands of years. And we all would agree with you.
     

  8. You should accept people as overall good and and try to understand and relate to that good part of them, even if you do not see it on the surface, this is part of what following God is about.
    You speak of God but you are bitter, ignorant and cold to others, so much so that you do not spend the time to understand what they are actually saying.
    You speak of God but you are not in any shape of form doing what person following Gods word should be doing.
    I respect true people of religion, not because of the God they believe in but because of their actions and moral high ground they uphold, because of the care and love for others they project even in the face if injustice, fear and pain. You use God and religion as a shield to protect your ego, I have no respect for you because of this.
     
  9. My goal was to have you self-reflect, nothing good comes from burning people down and that is not my intention.
    I criticized your position in the conversation, not you personally, and I though that of all involved you would be most likely to see.
     
  10. thelitfit1

    thelitfit1 Fapstronaut

    I think pain and humiliation are the opposite of love.
    Love and Abundance -----porn-----> Pain and Scarcity
    It's scary.
     
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  11. g2stop

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    The weird thing is that pain, suffering, bondage, slavery, kidnap, humiliation, blackmail, ruining life, ruining marriage, debt, beatings all seem like bad things. But somehow they have been sexualised to be “kinky” or “naughty” or a bit “spicey”. If you engage in normal sexual you are boring, but if you “enjoy” the above they are somehow more fun. WTF!!!
     
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  12. Decided

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    I believe addictive behaviors are often attempts to resolve past situations that were hurtful, damaging or stressful in some way. I was abused by my mother as a child, not an excuse for PMO but important information. I realized my particular niches of P were very much related to trying to get the upper hand. The femdom scenario was not necessarily about me being dominated so much as it was me getting something over on the female. She thinks she's in charge when, in the fantasy, it's really me dictating what's happening.
    She thinks she's in charge and hurting me but I'm secretly pleasured. She's not taking anything from me, I'm taking from her and the cost of my humiliation and degradation seemed worth the perceived benefit. I think there's also an element of infantile helplessness or neediness involved but it would depend on whatever stress I was trying to deal with in that moment.
     
  13. CodeTalker

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    I was never caught in such fetish but I also almost never watch western porn. Many people are caught in this simply because there is a lot of content.
     
  14. i_have_pizza

    i_have_pizza Fapstronaut

    Why do you think, that it is not what you really want? Not all fetishes is porn inspired. Sometimes u're just want it.
     
  15. ultrafabber

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    Because "regular" or "boy-girl" porn is in essence cuckold porn and you put yourself in a humiliating position. You sit on the side, watching the woman you are interested in giving her full attention to another man and pleasing him while ignoring you most of the time. You masturbate next to her and you watch another guy. Most people have no idea how emasculating and disturbing "normal" porn is. They are just conditioned to enjoy being cucks.

    More so, the act of jerking off is a homosexual/bisexual act which adds to the humiliation, as a straight man does not want to do homosexual acts.
     
  16. ezmon

    ezmon Fapstronaut

    Hey,

    I think this is easy to understand. Imagine you watch one picture of what you call "soft porn", it releases a certain amount of Dopamin in your brain. You feel good. After a certain amount of time and watching your brain gets accustomed to this kind of experience and the release of Dopamin stops. So whenever you see another "soft porn" you will have no more Dopamin released because you are accustomed to this experience.

    Because you are addicted to this release of Dopamin while watching porn, you begin to look for something that causes Dopamin release. Logically, this must be a more intensive porn-category. This process goes on. It is a vicious-circle that strenghten itself endlessly.

    The best solution in my opinion, is the abstain of any porn material, even triggers and activities to fight this back . What currently helps me very much is definetly meditation and doing sports. I meditate 10 minutes. 10minutes in the morning and 10 minutes in the evening. If you want to know how, just say. Every second day I do some home-gym

    You will see that your brain recovers and this will help you a lot with Nofap.

    Additionally, you should occupy with the negative effects of porn. Not only for you brain but also for the consumers and producers. I have made a list of some points, just look on my thread-posts

    What I am struggling with in the moment is going to a psychologist. This is also a good solution , but I haven't taken this step yet.

    *IMPORTANT EDIT* You shoud definetly look for a non-porn "substitution" for this dopamin-relase while watching porn. This can be a hobby, your job or so on.
     
  17. i_have_pizza

    i_have_pizza Fapstronaut

    I can't stop laughing.
    Do you see the difference between masturbation because you like your penis too much and because you are aroused by girl?
    By the same logic I will become straight without fap. Or all gays is gays because of the fap. Or whatever.
     
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2020
  18. modernstore99

    modernstore99 Fapstronaut

    To all in this thread, it's obvious that porn warps our minds to find certain things arousing. To get rid of this, do a reboot. After that, have very vanilla sex for 1-2 months to rewire your brain towards actual sex. After that, feel free to explore your urges and desires. I was really into sP, femdom, pegging, and other porn in that genre. After my reboot though, I realized these were all porn-induced, and I've been exploring other areas of my sexuality. I don't think any of those fetishes are immoral or always porn-induced, but for me right now, it's not great for me to indulge. If you have a loving and supportive partner, why not try out something a little spicier. I'm very fit and very strong, and a couple weeks ago, the girl I was having sex with randomly put her hand on my neck. I asked her to stop and not doing it without my permission, but I'd also be willing to try something like that out later. It's all about navigating your sexual desires with a supporting partner, while also not letting porn-induced desires cloud your vision.

    In short, do a reboot, have some vanilla sex for a few months, and then explore your desires. As long as your not hurting/endangering yourself or anyone else, no desire/fantasy with a supportive partner can be considered immoral.
     
  19. lkhanh1234

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    hey man, if you got caught for 20 years, i think that you will have to go for at least 6 months to get actual results, here watch this guy, he talk about a legit way to quit porn and it's induced fetishes :
     
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  20. fedmom

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    The only way you can get rid of masochism is by increasing serotonin. It would only take about a week or 2 weeks to get out of the addiction.
     
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