This has got to be the most destructive habit a man can engage in!

Honestly this is the craziest experience I've ever been through in my whole life (I've said this countless times, saying again..)

3 years and 2 months away from porn, still flatlining, had a couple of benefits, I recovered 80% of my breath, physical stamina is a bit better (although not 100% yet) I'm sleeping way better, brain fog has lifted, painful anhedonia is gone and currently I'm facing just a "neutral anhedonia"
I'm not sad, I'm not angry, I wish I could feel something, just flat
what really bothers me is the low libido
my libido/sex drive is pretty much non-existent
it's soul-destroying to live as if you were castrated on a daily basis
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That's why I say this must be the most destructive habit to a man's life, how come this shit is capable to drain your sexual energy like that? how is this even possible? leaving you without any sex drive for months? millions of years of evolution have programmed human males to have a healthy, always turned on sex drive, the most successful men in history had a high libido, that's why they succeeded, this is what drived them and was the very reason of their success
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creativity stems from sex drive, it's very hard to be creative without sex drive, and creativity is vital to succeed in today's world
and finally sex drive fuels energy, that's why guys are so drained and fatigued during flatlines, it's really difficult to get shit done when you don't have no fucking energy!
it's crazy man.. this is the craziest shit ever, really hard to find something more destructive than PMO...
At this point I just want my emotions, peace of mind, motivation and energy back, I honestly don't give a shit about women, sex, my dick, fuck that shit, I want a healthy body who functions properly. The thing is, I don't know if this is possible without THE DESIRE TO FUCK WOMEN, I'm afraid they are libido-dependent and that I'll only get those things when my libido come back

 

Good to know that I hope it's possible to acces this state or perhaps they transmuted all their sexual energy into other endeavors

 

Look at the damage that this shit does
guys who were away from porn for more than a year entering flatlines after just one orgasm
how the fuck is this even possible
that's beyond evil

 

Yes

I've changed my whole lifestyle
zero interest in porn at this point

 

yes, a few relapses in 2017 and 2018, no relapse in 2019, and those relapses were on purpose in an attempt to kickstart my libido, not even out of an urge

 

didn't attempt, I got used to hitting on girls under the effect of an active sex drive/libido, that primal animal instinct, without this energy it's kinda useless to me, like an injured player having to wait to heal his injury so he can come back 100% to play his sport, and one of the reasons I quit PMO was because I had ED with a girl at the time

 

Since I quit porn for good without turning back

12 years of addiction
regular comsumption, 4 to 5 times a week, usually once a day, it got more severe in the last 2-3 years before I quit (jerking off for hours until 01:00 AM, edging for hours etc..)

 

I'll follow your advice, my life is pretty busy ATM maybe I'll have to resort to extreme measures (hookers for example) cause my situation is really extreme I think, here for instance you said you reactivated your facebook scrolling for something stimulating, that means you had the urge, even if weak to look for something to arouse you, this is anticipation, meaning your dopamine/reward system is working better than mine, in my case I don't even have the urge or desire to seek for anything pleasurable but I'm afraid I'll have to force myself, can't risk doing this with normal girls Cause that would consume a lot of my time and energy so I think the only alternative would be hookers once a week or once every two weeks, I'll see

 

well imo chaser effects are also a good sign that your libido is working well, when I had my (few) relapses I felt no chaser effect, in fact I felt worse afterwards but I think I'll have to resort to this as well, I feel I have more energy (far from perfect) one great benefit for instance is that I don't have to sleep after lunch anymore whereas in the first two years of my reboot I would take a "nap" pretty much everyday after lunch for like 2 or 3 hours, and I hate sleeping in the afternoon cause I like to be productive but at the time I was so fucking tired that there was no alternative. thankfully nowadays I don't have to sleep in the afternoon no more, huge benefit

 

I've just purchased the CBD oil, let's see what this will do for my depression/anhedonia, one step at a time
But what do you have to say about @Gavalar09 's situation for instance, he couldn't get hard even with ED pills, he was having frequent sex with his FwB
I've seen 2 recommendations in this community, the first, guys saying that you should wait until your libido returns to have sex etc.. you shouldn't have any orgasm while flatlining, alone or with women
and then I've also seen what you're saying @Hisself that we shouldn't wait, well, at least in the first 90 days hardmode would be handy but after 1 year I think we should really do something about it like force ourselves to have orgasms be it through MO alone or sex