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Gay or Just HOCD? Terrified & Need Help

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by helpmeplease123345, Feb 4, 2020.

  1. helpmeplease123345

    helpmeplease123345 New Fapstronaut

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    This post will be long so thank you before hand for taking the time to read this post and contribute advice. Trigger warning- will be talking specifically about sexual experiences. I am discussing things I have never told a soul before.


    I have been addicted to porn for as long as I can remember. I believe starting around the age of 13- I am now 23. And the escalation of my sexual problems has pushed me to the point of not knowing who I am and contemplating suicide. Starting in primary school, I always had crushes on girls. I vividly remember my first O- masturbating to a girl my age at around 12. I always had sexual thought about all the girls in my classes, and had huge crushes on female teacher and moms. I always struggled socially, but my peers would never know it. I harbor deep shame and embarrassment about tons of things in my life. Since I was a child, I have felt deeply inadequate in many areas in my life. My father always pushed me to be athletic and successful academically- but he, and I, were never satisfied with my performance. I have always had low self-esteem, and it caused me to give up on pretty much anything I was interested in if I wasn’t good at the respective task right away. Early on, I lacked with females due to insane levels of anxiety and embarrassment about nearly every action. But I have always felt like a contradiction. Because despite all these shameful feelings and inadequacies, I have been socially popular throughout my life. And from age 17 until now, I have had sex with over 20 women. In fact, I was almost the stereotypical bully throughout secondary school. I have deep regret and shame for how I treated many people in my life, and I can’t help but feel what I am going through now is a sort of karma from God- although I don’t think there is a God due to the suffering I and many others go through. I have been diagnosed with severe ADD, anxiety and depression.


    To deal with these problems and my anxieties throughout my life I leaned on one thing: PMO. And frankly, throughout most of my life, PMO has been the only sense of relief I have had. It started with just visualization in my head of women. Then pictures of women topless or even just women kissing. For the first 2 or so years I stuck with regular vanilla porn. Even at this point- I wouldn’t just pmo one time- it was repeated. As in 3-4+ times a day, every day. Sometimes, especially during a hangover, I will pmo 6-7 times. At age 15, vanilla porn just wasn’t doing it for me anymore. That’s when I stubbled upon incest porn. Mom-son porn was, for the next 3 years of my life, an obsession. I knew even then, 7 years ago, I had a problem. I vividly remember closing my laptop after yet another PMO session to incest porn at age 16 and thinking “this is going to develop in a serious problem one day”. *Trigger warning- This will get graphic, but I think this info is important*Around this age, I lost my virginity. It was incredible in the moment- but I feel so incredibly depressed and shameful looking back on it. She didn’t even want to do it. And while I was very sexually attracted to her, I did not like this girl whatsoever. I had sex with quite a few girls over the next few years. There was one girl that I would have sex with every weekend- and she turned me on like no other. When we had sex, I would sometimes O over 10 times back to back to back. Looking back, this seems like a clear sign of a burgeoning sex addiction. But, yet again, I had immense shame for this relationship with this girl. I won’t go into specifics, but I was made fun of by my friends about this relationship. but at the age of 18 I had a sexual experience that changed me forever. I was extremely drunk and an acquittance of mine asked if I could have sex with his girlfriend in front of him. It turned into an MFM threesome- but completely straight between us two males. There was no touching or anything of that nature between us, and I can honest to god say that I was in no way aroused by the guy physically. I did not want to touch him, kiss him, or anything else from him. I am 100% sure of that. But the pleasure the girl received from the threesome turned me on more than I ever have been in my whole life. I had sex with just this guy’s girlfriend for probably 3 hours afterwards- just me and her. And it was tied, with the girl I discussed just prior, for the best sex I had in my life. The shame I felt after this threesome was indescribable. I felt disgusting that I would partake in a threesome with a guy involved. Around this time, I got into Threesome and Cuckold porn, which for the last 5 years has been the only things that could arouse me porn wise- until recently. Will expand on that in a bit. Early in University, I had my first true love. I was so attracted to her it is hard to describe. We had sex constantly. But I could tell she wasn’t that into it because of various pharmaceuticals she was on, killing her sex drive. This yet again made feel immense shame. After a month of dating, she thought I was a sex addict. After about a year, she cheated on me. I was completely devastated, and heartbroken- and for a while, suicidal. But I masturbated to the thought of her constantly- and eventually to the thought of other men having sex with her. After a while, you get used to the degenerate thoughts, but debasing my self to this extent has damaged me emotionally and self esteem wise severely. Around this time, at age 20, I had the first homosexual thought pop into my head. I visualized a guy forcing me to give him oral after having sex with my ex-girlfriend- and it made me O nearly instantly. I feel completely and utterly disgusted writing that statement. I never once watched homosexual activity in P before this. I was cripplingly depressed after this for months. I continued to PMO to threesome and cuckold porn but didn’t really have anymore homosexual thoughts. Until one random a few months later night- I had a wet dream for the first time in my life. But it was extremely bizarre. I had a dream of just a nondescript man holding me down- and somehow that resulted in a wet dream. No sex. No nudity. And this resulted in the first and only wet dream of my life. To say I was, and still am, disturbed is an understatement. I started compulsively checking gay and straight porn to see if it turned me on. Gay porn did not most of the time- but sometimes, it slightly would. Making the HOCD unbearable. I have not once in my life, out in the real world, felt any sort of attraction to a guy. Subsequent to breaking up with my GF, and even a few times before our relationship, I have had ED with real women. And over the last 2 years it has gotten progressively worse. With someone women I am very attracted to, I will last less than a minute, otherwise, I will go soft within a few minutes. It was humiliating to no extent. I assume that it is PIED, but at this point I don’t know.


    Now, the true experiences that has led to me wanting to make a serious change. I had continued to habitually watch threesome and cuckold porn. But lately, I have been having dreams of a male friend making me give him oral. And as disgusted as it makes me, I am very aroused in my dream. And it now is starting to carry over in my waking life. I watched a few moments of gay porn- and got nearly an immediate erection. I had sex with a woman the other day and couldn’t even get remotely hard. Then, I had an image pop into my head of gay acts, and I got aroused and O’d nearly instantly. This has literally pushed me to the point of seriously contemplating suicide. I am not getting aroused to women anymore. I look at a girl and feel nothing. Honestly, I’ve felt my attraction to females slowly dwindle with each subsequent year since 18. Even the fucked-up porn I used to watch is doing nothing for me- unless it is gay. Specifically, an erect penis turns me on. Nothing else. Not a guy’s face, muscles, hair, voice etc. It feels like a purely physical reaction. I want to stress how I know for a 1000 percent fact that I did not have this reaction when I was younger. Was this because it was just subconsciously suppressed? I think of all the times this side of me could have appeared. Jokingly being showed gay porn when I was younger. I regularly saw guy my age naked when I was younger in PE and people joking around etc. I have had gay guys hit on me. Zero reactions, not even a thought. The idea of kissing, touching, and anything else with a man is physically repulsive. And I have never even once thought I may have any romantic feelings for a man. But now, I am questioning even that with these horrific dreams- Is the guy in the dream a repressed crush? Have I been a latent homosexual this whole time and not known it until 23? With zero signs whatsoever until 20? These homosexual thoughts stayed as only thoughts- day to day I never feel any attraction to men out and about. In terms of personality- I could not be farther from a stereotypical gay man. I can say with a high degree of certainty that if I am gay, everyone I know would be utterly shocked. Honestly- I am starting to lean towards that I am gay. The arousal I receive from this gay porn is too strong for it to be a fluke. Which completely and utterly disgusts me. I know I have internalized homophobia and this experience has led me to begin to deal with it in preparation for the worst. I don’t want to live a lie. I think of all the men I know of who have came out as gay when they were 40 and ruined their wife and kids lives.


    If I am gay, my current life is essentially over. I know that sounds like a hyperbole. But if I could expand more, without doxing myself, it would make sense. I am from a very conservative and religious area and family. I would quite literally be disowned by my whole family. I would lose all my friends. I would have two options- commit suicide or pick up and start my life over in a completely different area of the world.


    At this point, I feel numb writing this. I haven’t felt like myself in a long time- and the only time I’ve felt any strong feeling was the strong arousal I gained from imagining gay acts. It makes me feel physically ill. You always hear people know their sexual orientation from childhood- and most certainly by the end of puberty. Were all my experiences the first 20 years of my life a lie? My childhood crushes on girls my age, female teachers, and moms? The incredible sexual encounters I had with the first few women I had sex with? Not a single hint of any attraction to males until a disgusting thought popped in my head during the most vulnerable time in my life? I can’t even remember what I used to feel like or who I used to be. I feel like the only thing that turns me on is the idea of being a submissive sissy- the anthesis of what I am personality wise.


    I am trying to complete a 90+ reboot to see if some of these problems answer themselves- but honestly, I struggle to make it a week. I have tried for years and the longest I’ve lasted was 20 days. I am praying that I revert to how I felt in my adolescence- if not, my current life is over. So what does everyone think? Am I a latent homosexual? Or have I just associated feelings of immense shame with sex to such an extent that is leading me eroticize the most shameful thing possible in my life- homosexuality? Is this just severe HOCD with a porn and sex addiction? Or a combo of all the above?
     
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  2. I wish you the best of luck.

    I am going to be blunt:

    Nofap is a good start, but i think you need someone to talk to, maybe even going to a therapist to resolve the problem you seem to have with yourself. There is no shame in it.
     
  3. Supination

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    Hey there bro!
    First, Thank you for sharing and welcome to this site. You should consider yourself lucky that you have made your first step to become a better version of yourself with acknowledging your problem and deciding to start NoFap. So Congrats on that!
    Second, Calm down mate. What you have just described is a classic case of porn escalation and desensitization. There are so many people here that are batteling with the same case as yours. It is known that porn can lead to Anxieties, depressions and HOCD.
    I recommend you to dig in this forum and find some other posts that resemble yours.
    And of course, check out YourBrainOnPorn.com !!
    It's easly one of the best websites with the most helpful explanations to what porn does to our brain.. once you read some articles and watch some of their videos, You'll realize how porn has messed up our brains and dopamine levels. Know that your'e not alone in this and know that with high willpower and motivation you can defeat this crap!
    90 isnt a magical number. NoFap is very individual and each one has a different path to recovery. It's reversible but In your case and many other people who suffer from hocd and lost their attraction to the opposite sex, the recovery usually takes longer.
    You should start NOW! NO. MORE. PORN. FOREVER!
    I also think you should consider meeting a therapist who has worked with porn addicts and people who had HOCD by using the CBT treatment.
    I feel you! Good luck and keep us updated!
     
    Last edited: Feb 5, 2020
  4. fitbro09

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    For what it’s worth, get fit and earning the kind of body I’m attracted to on a dude has helped me a lot. That and just getting more in tune with my own raw masculinity through bonding with other bros.
     
  5. IGY

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    Just HOCD. This is nothing to do with being gay. It is porn escalation, nothing more and nothing less. :oops: Stop masturbating to porn and these intrusive thoughts and images will fade and stop. :) Do not test yourself with questions or pics of males.
     
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  6. Nucleus

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    Looks like sex addiction to me. It springs from the well of porn addiction and doesn’t mean you are gay at all.


    not gay


    Go completely NoFap along with other things that might help: No social media, no computer games and here’s a shocker... I went vegan a month back and my urges have dropped in half. I wasn’t expecting it at all. I, like you, have ADHD. The diet has helped with ADHD a lot after only a couple of weeks. All these things will help. The gay thing comes as a result of the addiction asking for stronger and stronger hits. The ED is typical. It should go away if you stick to NoFap etc.
     
  7. Worst case scenario man you just relocate to San Francisco or the gay village in Toronto or Montreal.

    Haha.

    Seriously though I feel your pain because I'm struggling with the same shit as you. But I recently realized I reallt actually suffer from OCD. Sometimes I'll be obsessing about if I'm gay. Sometimes I'll be obsessing about being a failure or having 0 confidence or being a porn addict forever. Etc.

    The thing is, these are just thoughts. They don't define us. But we make a mistake because we believe we are what we think.

    Check out the Youtube channel of this dude called Mark Freeman. He specializes on OCD in general. He really explains what it is and how it's probably affecting your whole life (not just HOCD). He also explains how to break the circle of hell. Etc.
     
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  8. rca123

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    That's pretty awful man, I'm sorry you're experiencing it. I recognize a certain amount of similarities to my own life. Something I recently realized (which is true of you as well) is that these compulsive gay desires are not natural to you.
    This struck me when a little while ago I found myself remembering the first thing I had ever looked at for sexual pleasure, it was a Victoria's secret catalogue. If you were really naturally gay, you wouldn't have spent the majority of your life attracted to women. What you are dealing with is a pavlovian stimulus/pleasure response. If I knew how to specifically help you I would tell you, I am attempting allowing my unwanted thoughts to show up without suppressing them or acting on them (to hopefully cut down on the rebound effect); maybe that might help you. I will say that unfortunately you're running a marathon, not a sprint. It won't dissipate overnight, and it may take a lot longer than you want it to.

    I know that you don't think you have anyone in your area you can talk to about this, I'm a religious person myself and I generally avoid specifics when mentioning it to my friends; but you should know that God loves you regardless of what you're struggling with. I'll pray for you, and if you are willing to give it a try I would recommend that you talk to God about this. Don't worry about judgement or anything, he already knows what you're going through; but he will help you to deal with the struggle.
     
  9. fedmom

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    If you feel regret from it then it be a fetish. The method in my thread might work and would help with the anxiety and depression.
     

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