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From Porn to Paintings- From Darkness into Light

Discussion in 'Success Stories' started by discovery, Nov 27, 2019.

Which do you use the most to find inner peace?

  1. Physical exercise

  2. Religion/ Spirituality

  3. Meditation/ Visualization

  4. Connecting with friends/ family

  5. Hobbies/ Keeping a Diary/ Journal

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  1. Thanks discovery for your detailed answer!

    Today I did Art Visualisation for the first time.
    I had been working until late in the evening and after that I had eaten Falafel at a wonderful place. The men working there are refugees from Syria. They're really nice! They call each other "Habibi" and gave me, their costumer, the greatest attention.
    So I was in a good mood when I walked home through the night. That's when I decided to the Visualisation at home.

    At first it was a little bit difficult. A little bit like meditation: many distracting thoughts came up and I tried not to think that much. I was also thinking about writing this post about my experience which was the biggest distraction until the end. You can't experience something fully, when you think all the time about WHAT you experience and HOW you tell others about it later.

    The next trouble was the music. I looked for music that would fit the painting, later I looked for a good painting for my music, that is, for a good combination of both. I was offline so I had only my own music and although I've got quite a collection, most of it just don't fit. For example, I've got only 3 pieces of classical music.

    I used three paintings. The first random chosen painting was a landscape with a mother and her children walking on a muddy path through a rainstorm. The viewpoint is behind the group, so that you can't see any faces. Not the most delightful scene but interesting and moving never the less. With strong beautiful colors.

    I tried some of your techniques and I think it made me going deeper into the painting, seeing more details and feeling much more IN the scene. Also I wondered about the woman and her children. But I couldn't think of any definite story.

    As I said, I had problems finding the right music. But then I found a long recording of birds chirping and singing. Therefore I choosed blooming landscapes as my second and third painting. One was an avenue in Autumn. I was standing on that avenue looking straight at the red sun setting at the end of that avenue. The trees on both sides had already lost their leaves and the white (!) ground were full of red foliage. Far away were some little figures, maybe peasants.

    The third picture was called Cherry Blossom Time and was that kind of landscape where everyone wants to have a picnic or a romantic meeting or just lay in the grass warmed by the sun. It had a beautiful meadow with white and yellow flowers and many big trees, some green and some pink.

    There I had a perfect combination. I tuned down the bird sounds a bit and additionally played Pink Floyd The Division Bell (only tracks without singing voice). I enjoyed the music and this wonderful painting with the birds singing. Ideas popped up, like laying in the grass, eating an apple from a tree, running around the trees, sitting against one tree and most of all: looking at the scenery from all possible angles, looking at what's near and what's far. I imagined not only myself but also other people doing these things. I imagined children playing there. I also could smell things ... or nearly.

    First all these ideas were quite randomly and not so specific. But I was sucked into the picture, more and more. Suddenly I was with a beautiful young girl. We played around and then I could see her face. It was like in a dream. She had delicate features and freckles (I didn't know her but I know that type, I mean I have seen women looking like her). She had long hair. She laughed. From the trees pink and white petals fall onto her, covered her hair (I think she was blonde). These scenes were so intense I nearly cried. In reality I didn't cry, but in my imagination, under the tree, I did. She did also. She was so beautiful - both laughing and with tears on her face. (It was emotionally so overwhelming therefore the crying. Not out of sadness.)
    Then, after it was most intense, I ended it.

    In retrospective, I think many of the techniques you mention, are really difficult - at least for me. But I think it's just a question of training.
    On the other hand I already experienced the thing you're talking about: to be in the painting. I was in there. Incredible!
     
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  2. I forgot to say that in retrospective I found it strange how close it actually was to pmo. In a way. I mean I went on a quest for the "right" picture, tried out several and finally found the "best" one and had a rush of fantasy and strong feelings until some kind of climax.
    It's only a superficial resemblance, but one I didn't expect.
    Probably I wouldn't even say this, if it wasn't for that girl in my visualisation. Although it was so innocent it still was a sexual fantasy and I'm not really surprised that something like that happened in my first try.
    On the other hand this was more than just one of those sexual fantasies that pop up so easily. As I said, it was like in a dream. Closer to the heart ...
     
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  3. discovery

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    This is so awesome! I am honored that you've put so much effort into it. As for the difficulty, really it is like anything else when you first start. The more you do it, the easier it gets. One of the qualities of theta wave production (which is what you get when you get lost in the paintings) is that it allows your subconscious thoughts to come through more easily. So the more relaxed you get, the easier it will be to visualize things. This happens with me all the time. When I first start, I will see some things, but as it goes on the visualization becomes a lot more creative. And its nothing I'm doing consciously. It just comes up.

    Now you see why I'm so passionate about this. And you can also see how it can completely replace porn! We use porn to medicate shitty feelings. So when you have an experience like this, why would you go back to porn? Have you ever cried out of joy watching porn? I didn't think so. My desire for porn has dropped to almost zero. This is so so so much better. Do I have desire to M? Of course. But I truly think that as long as I keep doing this, porn will be gone forever.

    Yes. It's a matter of training. Just keep at it. Little by little you will discover new things that work for you and keep coming back to them. For example, one time, out of nowhere, I just made myself (and the girl I was with) really small and started flying around with her. Then we sat on a leaf on a tree and just watched everything below. Now, I will regularly change my size to fit what I can do in the painting. Really glad to hear this report icebreaker. Keep it up! There's a whole other world out there.
     
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    If I had to guess, based on how my visualizations have been going, I think I may have imagined myself walking up to them and talking to them. Then the mother would have said 'we live right over here' and invited me in. I would go in, and she would ask me if I'd like some tea. I'd say yes and she'd go to the kitchen to make it. Meanwhile, one of the kids brings me to his room and shows me his toys. Then their dog runs into the room and wants to play. I take a tennis ball, throw it in the air, and the dog catches it. The mom yells out that the tea's ready. We sit at the kitchen table and drink it. The rain sounds really calming outside. Meanwhile there's a warm fireplace in the corner. Etc..

    Even though I'm still staring at the painting while we're on the muddy pathway and I can only see them from behind, I can still imagine all of this anyway. Once you get started, you can take it anywhere. There have been a number of times where I have entered houses and explored the rooms, even though the painting only shows the house from the outside.
     
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    This method sounds awesome. I'll start downloading some paintings at once. Thank you so much for sharing!
     
  6. Hi, loved the method. Is amazing how powerful this is. Thank you!

    On the other hand, is there any chance you upload your collection of art here? I found some but it gets difficult to find the correct paintings.

    Thanks, really.
     
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    Wonderful! Yes, please do that. It will be time well spent.

    So glad to hear that!

    Well, I think that part of what makes it effective (although I didn't write it in the post) is the process of personalizing it (and in a way, 'earning' it) by finding your own paintings. Different types speak to different people in different ways. I'm a tour guide in real life, and its the same thing there. Every place I take my groups and talk to them about are places I researched myself. I did the homework, put the information together, and when I tell them the facts and stories, it is something that comes from the heart. If I had never done that, if someone had just given me all their notes instead and I just memorized it, it just wouldn't be the same. And its like that with the paintings. Every time I open a new painting, I have the peace of mind of knowing that it is something I found myself at an earlier time and liked enough to put it in my collection. I am always pleasantly surprised. So as much as I would like to help you like that, I encourage you to find your own.

    One thing I can suggest though, is to go to athenaeum.com, and do a search based on an art museum that is near you, of course if they have enough paintings uploaded to work with. That way, after you've done the exercises, you can go visit the paintings in real life. Or you could go before, or whenever. Or maybe there's a city in the world you're particularly interested in. Or an artist. For example, maybe you've always wanted to go to The Louvre in Paris. So you could go to athenaeum, do a search for The Louvre, and then scroll through the thumbnail versions. When you see something interesting, click on it and take a closer look at the medium-sized version. If you still like it, click it again so it goes to the large version, and download it. Then you can build a Louvre collection. After working through those paintings, at some time in the future you may take a trip to The Louvre, and it will greatly enhance your experience.

    I recently was at an art museum, and saw a painting that looked familiar. It was an amazing painting. After I left, I realized that I had already added it to my Daily Art favorites maybe a month earlier. Purely by coincidence. I did the visualization of that painting on my trip home, and it was all the more meaningful because I had seen it in real life.

    Just go ahead and give it a chance. But long story short, I think it is important to find your own paintings, and in a way 'create' your own art museum.
     
  8. I did "AV" again. Don't know what took me so long. I should do it without pressure, but often. It does me so well!

    More Art, more visualisation in 2020 :)
    I also want to post some painting here, now and then.
     
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    Excellent! Yes, go for it!
     
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  10. yes, thank you!
    I think I don't need to ask "what took me so long?". It's just a new habit and although it brings me joy already, I need to remind me to keep the thing going and put some effort in it.
     
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    Yes. It feels like work at first, until you realize that you can't wait to get at it again. It's almost like an addiction itself, except in a healthy, healing way.
     
  12. TangoTao

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    QUESTION:
    Which do you use the most to find inner peace?
    1. Physical exercise
    2. Religion/ Spirituality
    3. Meditation/ Visualization
    4. Connecting with friends/ family
    5. Hobbies/ Keeping a Diary/ Journal
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    ANSER:
    ALL OF THEM! - The tricky part of it is to properly sense out the right moment for the right thing, and keep them all in some best proportion at any given period of time - it takes quite some diligence to properly figure it out for the best possible benefits.
     
  13. discovery

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    Well said, Tango, and so true. It can be tricky to find the right balance.
     
  14. TangoTao

    TangoTao Fapstronaut

    Which do you use the most to find inner peace - AND ... what they mean to you?
    1. Physical exercise - cardio, weights, stretching
    2. Religion/ Spirituality - study, contemplation, insight
    3. Meditation/ Visualization - design, timeblocking, journalling
    4. Connecting with friends/ family - give most time and attention to those with biggest potential
    5. Hobbies/ Keeping a Diary/ Journal - painting, drawing, poetry
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  15. discovery

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    Give it a try man, it's good stuff.
     
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  16. That's one of the best lists I've seen, regarding recovery
    Simple but effective
     
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  17. Again, thousand thanks @discovery for that ... discovery!
    I didn't practice it very often yet and I haven't written about my experiences often here. But I consider it a long time project. Moreover, it was simply a total new perspective for me.
     
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    Thanks icebreaker! No worries, I hope that it enriches your life in the future. Lately, I've made a new... discovery! :D I've found that if I do it right before meditating, the meditation session is much more effective. The art visualization puts my mind in a very calm, relaxed state, which makes it easier to meditate. Good to see you here again!
     
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  19. Superb! Really looking forward to getting into this. Hope it's ok I have copied most of your signature, as I really like the links.
     
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    Woah that is awesome Fred! I am honored. Thanks for sharing those links! :D

    Yes, the art visualization is amazing. I have nicknamed it 'The Smoother' for myself because it just smoothes me out. And feel free to join us in the travel challenge! Look forward to seeing you around.
     

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