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What is your opinion on sex without orgasm during reboot?

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by Blusunman, Feb 21, 2020.

  1. Blusunman

    Blusunman Fapstronaut

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    Would I be better off having sex (to rewire) without orgasm during my reboot?

    or would it be better to have sex with an orgasm to build the mental connection between sex and orgasms?

    I have been having orgasmic sex for a few month, while obviously staying away from porn and masturbation. But I noticed this drains me and can trigger a flatline

    would sex without O be better for me for a while?
     
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  2. Bradford0418

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    Sex without O definitely keeps the energy up. I found this out earlier this week until I have in with an O. I was so drained the next day that I became convinced that sex without O is possible and maintains your vitality. Plus she gets a lot more attention which is a huge plus. Make sure she is onboard with the no O so that you have support.
     
  3. untunedguitar

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    How do you do it though?? No actual penetration? Only she gets pleasured? Must be really hard!
     
  4. Bradford0418

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    Penetration happens. It’s going into sex not thinking you need to or will ejaculate. Your only goal is her pleasure. And practice. Do some research on male continence and the pointers are helpful. Staying relaxed, don’t clench your anus and don’t get too aroused. Slow or stop to back down from your high.
     
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  5. untunedguitar

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    I see. I'd give it a try if I had a gf hah
     
  6. i never had any sex. i hope you dont either.
     
  7. untunedguitar

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    Why?
     
  8. Having an orgasm helps to associate pleasure with whatever you're doing. If you're having sex with a real woman, it's a good idea to associate orgasm with that real woman instead of to porn. So, yes, go ahead and have an orgasm. Nothing wrong with that.

    While some people (such as @Bradford0418) find themselves drained after an orgasm, that's not true of everyone. I personally am energised after an orgasm. So, that depends on you.
    Ignore Andhira. He's been trolling in several places.
     
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  9. if i dont get laid then noone does
     
  10. untunedguitar

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    Gotcha, I suspected as much, but was trying to give the benefit of the doubt. Back on topic, wouldn't it technically be edging if you had sex with someone and not ejaculating? I wholly agree with you that it's a good idea to relate orgasm with actual sex with a woman.
     
  11. The word "edging" comes from being on the edge of orgasm. The metaphor is that of being on the edge of a cliff. In other words, edging is stimulating yourself (or someone else) to the point just before orgasm, and then stopping. If you don't get to the edge, or at least very close to the edge, technically, it's not edging.
     
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  12. Bradford0418

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    I orgasm without ejaculation. Big difference. Ejaculation is not always or exactly orgasm. They are actually separate.
     
  13. This fascinates me. I know that you can ejaculate without orgasm, but I didn't realise that the other way around was possible. Please tell me how you do that? (You'd best put your answer inside a spoiler because of triggers.)
     
  14. Bradford0418

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    For some I will fully agree.
     
  15. Bradford0418

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    Meditation. Which is also an appropriate way to reboot for some. Search online and there are plenty of resources using tantric yoga.
     
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  16. Blusunman

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    there is no reason to turn down sex in a healthy relationship if your body is responding normally to regular sexual cues. You’re just unnecessarily torturing yourself. The people who need to stay away from a ex are the people who have severe PIED and cannot have sex yet
     
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  17. blacksky98

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    I think I have severe PIED because even when I was in her, still had a limp dick how long before I can have sex
     
  18. Assuming that it's not a medical problem (a doctor can do the appropriate tests) and is a result of PMO…

    We can't give you a simple answer to "how long before I can have sex", because everyone is different. It depends on how badly your brain is screwed up.

    I don't know your history, but as you are young, it probably means that you've been using porn since your teenage years. That's not good because it means that the damage might be quite extensive. But being young means that your brain is still ready to change quickly, and you can direct that for the better.

    I presume that "her" means your partner. So, you'll probably have to come clean and let her know that you have this addiction, and hope that she supports you in your recovery. But that's your decision.

    Anyway, I think that you know the answer:
    • No porn. Ever. For the rest of your life. Including p-subs (porn substitutes).
    • No masturbation. For at least 90 days. Definitely never when you have a partner.
    • If your partner will support you, do a hard reboot for 90 days. You might have to compromise, though.
    • Educate yourself. There are great articles on NoFap, YBOP, and FTND among others. There are plenty of YouTube videos on the subject.
    • Retrain your brain to your partner, and only your partner. That means the only sexual contact you have is with her. Your brain will learn (slowly) that the only way you get to "spread your seed" is by physical contact with a real person, and never with your hand in front of a screen.
    Good luck!
     
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  19. blacksky98

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    Ah ah thanks mane and yeah I told her
     
  20. blacksky98

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    I’m done w/ PMO for good cause I don’t EVER wanna feel like that again
     
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