Giving Up M For Good As The Way To Overcome P Addiction

Well, relapsed to M makes my flashback of P become roared, or my past sex experience. While no MO controll/reduce it

 

I am too forced to stay in house. But my firm mindset is all i need. Even my body deppressed so badly to have an O. I wont break my commitment on hard mode til married

 

I completely agree. Until my husband decided m was no longer a viable option, ever, he could not resist p. Even sex can still give him urges. He’s especially careful after sex.

 

This is a more nuanced issue than I initially thought when I started rebooting in 2016. 1 went 284 days on my first attempt to beat pied. I saw loads of improvement but when times got tough I had an all or nothing mindset that led me to watching porn for several hrs. Had I just m’d and hopped back on the journey I may be much further along today. I had another porn relapse in a month and about a month after that when I went to relapse I instead just MO’d and saw no negatives after and a reduction in the anxiety that was leading me to porn, after several 6-10 month streaks I caved to porn due to this all or nothing mindset. In January I booked a session with Noah Church and he actually said that he rarely advises people to MO who are recovering addicts but said that if you have been struggling on long streaks for several years that it could be beneficial to MO very sporadically to condition your arousal away from porn if you have no partner. He said most guys entering puberty have their first releases masturbating to thoughts of a pretty girl in their class and very vanilla stuff and if you didn’t have that phase and went straight to hardcore porn it could be beneficial to get familiar with your sexuality in a more positive way instead of masturbating to porn. I’ve reintroduced MO sporadically and have seen some benefits and some drawbacks. It is a slippery slope and each person must make that call themselves. If I do it too much consecutively I start to lose sensation and my fantasy escalates, if I do it on a rare occasion I can do it successfully with either just sensation or recalling past experiences.

 

For me it's the opposite, seems like I'm in the minority then. I could watch porn for hours without masturbating, wasting so much of my time on this trash... All the time that im trying to reboot, i haven't had any urges to masturbate, i get urges to watch porn. Then with porn; i would edge and masturbate. But not without porn. Thats why im doing my best not to watch porn or any other seducing pictures/videos

 

I am a bit on the opposite side too, day 24 and I have never thought of MO. However, I get urges to look at porn or my brain sort of convinces me to look at sexy pics. Is looking at porn with no MO whatsoever considered a relapse?

 

I agree. I abstained from PMO in June 2017 and initially I didn't intended to quit masturbation at all, but changed my mind after some time. The main reason for this was that masturbation without porn doesn't give me much thrill, I need some visual stimulation to get aroused. With time my porn memories became very bleak and now I could hardly masturbate just to imagination as I have not much memories left. Celibate might look hard to achieve at first, but, surprisingly, I found it not difficult at all. The longer you go, the easier it gets.

Another reason why I think masturbation (even without porn) is still dangerous is that you can learn to cope with your mental issues using it. Nowadays many people are stressed because of coronavirus outbreak and all uncertainty surrounding it and use PMO to escape from reality and get some temporary relief. This is a dangerous way to take as it can lead to forming the edging habits and subsequential dopamine addiction. This is what happened to me in 2008-09 crisis.

 

@locomia @Hello Friend read this it’s true. hope it helps